I agree (surprisingly (?) ) more or less on those, except for One After Another which I rate as high as a (though weak) 7/10 in spite of the funny looking glasses on the antihero , but it has a meaningful entertaining story and good mood.
I also rate Blood AT Sundown / 1 000 Dollars On The Black as a weak 7/10 with some nice music and interesting performance/character by Garko and the mother. A couple of boring fist fights though.
I haven’t watched several of the lower rated SWs on the list, but my selection process a few years ago obviously ruled them out from the trouble of examining them closer
Blood at Sundown gets worse with every viewing, it’s a badly made film imo. Should be a good one, same for One After Another, which has some promising ideas, but does not much with it.
Kill Them All and Come Back Alone 4 - ruled out
Sonny and Jed 4 - ruled out
Long Live Your Death 4 - ruled out
Ben and Charlie 5 - ruled out
Fighting Fists of Shanghai Joe 3 - ruled out
A Man Called Sledge 4,5 - ruled out
So my best guess is that I would share your verdict in these cases, but I definitely don’t remember exactly why I ruled out each of these examples.
Another guess is that my selection process was rather efficient since after probably around 90 - 100 SWs or so first selected with a high proportion of at least 6/10 first rating from me, of the following around 45-55 tested I can’t remember many more that received such a good mark from me and I even didn’t complete the whole movie in the following cases :
Colt in the Hand of the Devil - gave up after 31 min. (not the one with R Woods though)
One Against One… No Mercy - gave up after unknown number of minutes
A Long Ride From Hell 49 min
Kill The Poker Player 47 min
Degueyo 38 min
Johnny Texas 30 min
A Man Called Amen 26 min
7 DOLLARS ON THE RED 25 min
Vengeance Is a Dish Served Cold 20 min
Death Knows No Time 18 min
Texas Adios 17 min (so we seem to agree here)
Night of the Serpent 15 min
Ringo, The Face Of Revenge 11 min
Starblack 9 min
And the following SWs were initially rated 6/10 by me, but after usually several times watching them, the beacame 5/10 rated :
Cowards Don’t Pray/The Taste of Vengeance (Mario Siciliano) 1968
When The Devil Holds A Gun/Colt In The Hand Of The Devil (Gianfranco Baldanello) 1973
Death at Owell Rock (Riccardo Freda) 1967
And the Crows Will Dig Your Grave (Juan Bosch) music Bruno Nicolai 1971
Quintana: Dead or Alive (Vincenzo Musolino) music Felice Di Stefano 1969
El Rojo (Leopoldo Savona) 1966
Death Walks In Laredo/Three Golden Boys/ The Pistol, The Karate And The Eye (Enzo Peri) music Marcello Giombini 1967
No Graves On Boot Hill/Three Crosses Not to Die/Three Crosses of Death (Sergio Garrone) 1968
Time Of Vultures/Last Of The Badmen (Nando Cicero) 1967
Two Crosses At Danger Pass (Rafael Romero Marchent) 1967
Just watched Arizona Colt for the first time and I was surprised to see it wasn’t in the official or alternative top twenty list, I thought it was excellent. I haven’t seen as many Spaghetti Westerns as others on here, though, so I don’t know if there are some things it was missing I didn’t see.
‘Arizona Colt’ has some of the best dialogue outside the ‘Dollars’ movies, and quite possibly Raoul’s most memorable lines too: He came out of nowhere with no one beside him - he rode out of the sunrise all alone…
16 out of the first 17 on Yotimbo’s Top 20 are also on my SW Top 57, which I believe could be the closest match ever that I have observed on any one’s SW Top 20, but still that doesn’t say so much because they are all well known and no zapatas…
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My former list :
1 For A Few Dollars More (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1965
2 Once Upon A Time In The West (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1968
3 Dead Men Ride/At The End Of The Rainbow (Aldo Florio) music Bruno Nicolai 1971
4 Django Kill If You Live Shoot (Giulio Questo) music Ivan Vandor 1967
5 The Big Gundown (Sergio Sollima) music Ennio Morricone 1967
6 A Fistful Of Dollars (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1964
7 The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1966
8 My Name Is Nobody (Tonino Valerii) music Ennio Morricone 1973
9 Cemetery Without Crosses (Robert Hossein) music André Hossein 1969
10 Requiem For A Gringo/Duel In Eclipse (Eugenio Martín, José Luis Merino) music Angelo Lavagnino 1968
11 Johnny Yuma (Romolo Guerrieri) music Nora Orlandi 1966
12 The Forgotten Pistolero/Gunman Of Ave Maria (Ferdinando Baldi) music Roberto Pregadio 1969
13 The Stranger Returns/A Man, A Horse, A Gun (Luigi Vanzi) music Stelvio Cipriani 1967
14 Kill The Wicked/ God Does Not Pay On Saturday (Tanio Boccia) music Angelo Lavagnino 1967
15 El Puro/The Reward’s Yours… The Man’s Mine (Edoardo Mulargia) music Alessandro Alessandroni 1969
16 Viva Django / Django, Prepare A Coffin (Ferdinando Baldi) music Gianfranco Reverberi 1968
17 The Big Silence / The Great Silence (Sergio Corbucci) music Ennio Morricone 1968
18 Death Rides A Horse (Giulio Petroni) 1967
19 Day Of Anger (Tonino Valerii) 1967
20 Sabata (Gianfranco Parolini) music Marcello Giombini 1969
And here is my current updated SW Top 20, where El Puro has advanced even higher :
10/10
1 For A Few Dollars More (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1965
2 Once Upon A Time In The West (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1968
9/10
3 Dead Men Ride/At The End Of The Rainbow (Aldo Florio) music Bruno Nicolai 1971
4 Django Kill If You Live Shoot (Giulio Questo) music Ivan Vandor 1967
5 The Big Gundown (Sergio Sollima) music Ennio Morricone 1967
6 A Fistful Of Dollars (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1964
7 The Good, The Bad And The Ugly (Sergio Leone) music Ennio Morricone 1966
8 /10
8 My Name Is Nobody (Tonino Valerii) music Ennio Morricone 1973
9 Cemetery Without Crosses (Robert Hossein) music André Hossein 1969
10 Requiem For A Gringo/Duel In Eclipse (Eugenio Martín, José Luis Merino) music Angelo Lavagnino 1968
11 Johnny Yuma (Romolo Guerrieri) music Nora Orlandi 1966
12 El Puro/The Reward’s Yours… The Man’s Mine (Edoardo Mulargia) music Alessandro Alessandroni 1969
13 The Forgotten Pistolero/Gunman Of Ave Maria (Ferdinando Baldi) music Roberto Pregadio 1969
14 The Stranger Returns/A Man, A Horse, A Gun (Luigi Vanzi) music Stelvio Cipriani 1967
15 Kill The Wicked/ God Does Not Pay On Saturday (Tanio Boccia) music Angelo Lavagnino 1967
16 Viva Django / Django, Prepare A Coffin (Ferdinando Baldi) music Gianfranco Reverberi 1968
17 The Big Silence / The Great Silence (Sergio Corbucci) music Ennio Morricone 1968
7 /10
18 Death Rides A Horse (Giulio Petroni) 1967
19 Day Of Anger (Tonino Valerii) 1967
20 Sabata (Gianfranco Parolini) music Marcello Giombini 1969
Actually the list from Franco Cleef was one of the first posted, but it also was the only post of that member, and also the last time he visited the forum. That’s the kind of list I usually replace at first, but I kept it so far cause I assumed it was maybe THE Franco Cleef, but on the other hand maybe it was just an avatar name by someone else.
Whatever, it is anyway a list made mostly with the usual suspects.
What’s the point of removing old rankings? Doesn’t that just reduce the total number of rankings used and make the official top 20 less representative of the majority’s opinion?
I understood that whenever new member posts a list stanton removes one of the older ones, so the total number is still the same.
Also this way the top20 is more updated in regards of availability of the films. For example, when the topic was started almost 20 years ago, film like El Puro was a rarity while something like Mannaja was easily available which (in my opinion) explains it’s rather high rating.
Ideally everyone who has posted a list here is still in the forum, constantly watches and rewatches SWs and revises his list from time to time. By that we would have a dynamically changing list, which reflects changed tastes and a changed availability of films.
But actually there are many lists from the first years of voting which never were altered.
And in 2006 many now well known Spags were only available in bad full frame VHS copies, others were barely available at all, since then a flood of home video releases in good to great quality may have changed the view on many of then not that well known films.
So to get at least some “dynamically changes” in the list, and some in this forum wanted btw to get rid of all older lists, I stay with the number of 200 lists (which is an incredible great amount anyway) and keep that number as long as less than 10 new lists per year are added.
Hi Stanton, I’ve been gone from here a while but I never stopped watching spaghettis, and have seen quite a few since my last post on here. I was planning on updating my top 20 very shortly if it’s welcome after such a long absence.
Of course it’s welcome, you can update your list at any time, actually everybody can who has already voted.
It would be great if anyone who has ever voted, or at least many of them, would revise their list from time to time, by that the list would always reflect changing tastes and kept up to date.
All (mostly rather well known ) except The Mercenary (don´t like the zapata style, the car(?) and the lead actor and his looks but very good whistling ! ), A Coffin For The Sheriff (never watched maybe a comedy (?) which I rule out except for My Name Is Nobody ) and Keoma (never watched, same bad actor even uglier styled !) are on my SW Top 77 with 6/10 or better rating by me.
, but it has a meaningful entertaining story and good mood.