My vote: Bronson
My vote - McQueen because I could relate more to him. Often he played the ordinary guy who found himself in difficult situations. Steve always played the guy you wished were an older brother or next door neighbor who you could hang out with. I though he was closer to a guy like Paul Newman. Too bad he died so young as Iād like to see what kind of films he would have made in his old age.
charles bronson
Bronson for me, in spite of the horrible films in the eightiesā¦I like McQueen too, but films like āHard Timesā, āDeath Wishā (the first one), āThe Mechanicā, āThe Stone Killerā, āChinoā, āThe Valachi Papersā, āThe Familyā, etc. I never tire of going back to.
If acting ability was to be considered McQueen would win in a landslide, but Bronson still has my vote. I just love the guy, even his 80s stuff with Cannon holds a special place with me. Iāve seen Death Wish 4 a dozen times more than Bullitt, and I guess that speaks for itself.
[quote=āRutledal, post:45, topic:1884ā]If acting ability was to be considered McQueen would win in a landslide, but Bronson still has my vote.[/quote]That pretty much sums it up for me too.
Bronson is one dimensional and not half the actor that McQueen, nor is he even remotely has handsome as McQueen. McQueen probably even wins a real life street fight between the two.
Having said all that. My choice would still be Bronson.
Heās not a great actor, heās not good looking, heās not tall, and he doesnāt speak well and is rather inarticulate. Heās also way too old to be an action star in most of his films. Plus heās got bad hair.
And yet I canāt name another actor who I would rather watch on screen.
Howās that?
Well lets just say heās got something. I donāt know exactly what it is. Call it the It Factor if you want. You can say heās got screen presence, you can say that he looks tough.
But I think the real reason why I love Charles Bronson is that when heās killing some punk, he doesnāt look like heās acting. Heās not trying to be all pretty for the screen. Heās not trying to be a movie star. He just fucking does it. Its that understated believability that he has, I think thatās the reason why I prefer Charles Bronson.
I doubt that very much, Bronson would kick is pussy ass with one hand behind his back! Iāve never been a McQueen fan, donāt know why, donāt care.
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Bronson has made more entertaining films in my view, ones I always come back to. Like his different periods, ie from euro films to even some of his 80ās Cannon stuff. McQueen should have made a few more films in the 70ās.
[quote=āchameleon, post:48, topic:1884ā]I doubt that very much, Bronson would kick is pussy ass with one hand behind his back! Iāve never been a McQueen fan, donāt know why, donāt care.
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I wouldnāt call McQueen a pussy, he was a disciple of Bruce Lee and Jeet Kune Do and also trained under Chuck Norris. Norris actually estimated that while McQueen never received any ābeltsā, that he probably had the ability, skill, and discipline the equivalent of a third dan black belt. Thats pretty high praise coming from a guy like Norris. And this was during the days when having a black belt actually meant something. No strip mall dojo bullshit here. Iām pretty sure Bronson pretty was tough too. But if I were a betting man I would probably choose McQueen in a fight.
Paul Newman would just kick both between the legs and win thereby any fight easily ā¦
And Newman was a far better actor than these two. But I recognize some of what our Colonel said about Charles Bronson. I donāt think he was a good actor and I donāt think he was a nice person, but somehow you like him when heās on-screen, even when he plays a dispicably bad cop. I never really cared much for McQueen actually, but maybe he was in the wrong movies. The Great Escape, Bullit, Magnificent Seven are all okay, but also movies which leave me a bit cold.
Newman is the worst of the lot for me. Never liked his acting style and always amazed me on how popular he was. About one film of his I re watch and thats about it.
IĀ“ve seen more Bronson flicks that I enjoyed that McQueen flicks. Therefore: Bronson. They have about the same amount of screen presence though.
McQueen was also a bad or letās say a not-so-good actor.
But like Bronson he had a certain charisma which went very well if he found the films suitable for his style. He surely was also at his best when he hadnāt much to act. The Getaway is his perfect role.
[quote=āStanton, post:55, topic:1884ā]The Getaway is his perfect role.[/quote]Iām with you there. This used to be my second favourite Peckinpah after Alfredo Garcia but now it possibly could be my favourite. Iād just love to see an untampered with version.
Recently bought me a copy, I hope itās not cut ā¦
How long is the uncut version in PAL, and what was cut?
Wonder if there would be more swearing in this version, always surprised there was not more in for a film of this vein from the early 70ās.
[quote=āENNIOO, post:58, topic:1884ā]Wonder if there would be more swearing in this version, always surprised there was not more in for a film of this vein from the early 70ās.[/quote]A few violent films from this era were given PG/GP certificates in the U.S. with profanity missing. You can clearly see Al Lettieri swearing and he is dubbed over with different words.
Seems like the rest of the world was also given this print.
The Outfit with Robert Duvall also springs to mind. I think The Killer Elite may also be a victim.
Interesting, yes remember what you mean now re Lettieri.