[quote=“scherpschutter, post:57, topic:1884”]Recently bought me a copy, I hope it’s not cut …
How long is the uncut version in PAL, and what was cut?[/quote]
The Warner DVDs are all uncut.
Some people (me too) hope that one day a version will be released with Jerry Fielding’s original score and the scenes which were cut out on behalf of McQueen.
[quote=“Stanton, post:61, topic:1884”]The Warner DVDs are all uncut.[/quote]Visually yes, but all releases have swearing dubbed over.
Great fan of Jerry Fielding and have heard the Fielding score which is good, but that Quincy Jones score is also pretty good aswell. A tough call for me.
The Quincy Jones score sounds more unique to me… a bit off topic, but the score for A Better Tomorrow (1986) seems like almost a copy of the love theme in The Getaway.
You mean they are different from the theatrical release?
For me the Quincy Jones score is a flaw.
[quote=“Stanton, post:65, topic:1884”]You mean they are different from the theatrical release?[/quote]Did the theatrical release have Al Lettieri say “motherfucker” etc? I was born a year after it came out so couldn’t have seen it but I have had several editions on VHS, had a Laserdisc and DVD and now have a blu ray and all have had swearing dubbed over, and they have all been mixtures of U.S., U.K. and Japanese releases.
I don’t know as I have only seen the German dubbed release in a theatre, but I doubt that any changes were made to the film since its release.
The DVD surely represents the theatrical version, all changes were then made back in 1972.
[quote=“Stanton, post:67, topic:1884”]The DVD surely represents the theatrical version, all changes were then made back in 1972.[/quote]That’s what I’m trying to say in the first place. Swearing dubbed over in the U.S. to get a lower rating and the rest of the world (well, countries that would release it with an English soundtrack) getting the same version.
But it probably got already the highest rating.
In Germany it was always FSK 18, until a few years ago when for the DVD it was changed to FSK 16. Like all Peckinpahs.
[quote=“Stanton, post:69, topic:1884”]But it probably got already the highest rating.
In Germany it was always FSK 18, until a few years ago when for the DVD it was changed to FSK 16. Like all Peckinpahs.[/quote]And it was an X here (now 18). It’s still violent though. For some reason some of the really violent films providing they didn’t have swearing got PG’s in America and stronger certs elsewhere. THE KILLER ELITE was another one.
Anyway, I’m referring to English language prints of the film.
Getting back to Bronson for a second - Charles Laughton said Bronson had “the strongest face in the business” and was “one of its best actors”…that’s enough for me.
Newman’s not always a favorite, but I can watch him in “The Hustler”, “The Color of Money”, “Butch Cassidy”, and “The Verdict” over and over…
McQueen I can watch in “Bullitt”, “The Great Escape”, and a few others…
“Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia” is one dark masterpiece…story goes that Bronson had a chance to work with Peckinpah around this era for a crime/suspense movie called “The Insurance Company” (never got made); he turned it down, because “I don’t work with drunks.” So the story goes…
McQueen of course. Of course he is a much better actor but maybe even more important he was a much bigger movie star. People wanted him to win, although he very often seemed to lose the game in his films.
I love Charlie Bronson. Always loved him, always will. Growing up without a father I always loved to be around these ‘though’ guys, John Wayne included. They gave you the feeling of ‘alright buster, you’re pretty good, you can join my outfit. And if the going gets though, I’m there right in front of you!’. OUATITW is one of the best films ever made. I guess I liked him most in the 60s. ESCAPE / DOZEN… He was so different in those films, Hollywood just never knew what to do with him. So he went to France & Italy and became a star 
He then made fine films (mostly) until 1974 (I love Mr. Majestyk :))
One thing I never liked so much about him was that he did not take his job as seriousely as Steve & Clint (for instance). For Charlie it was important to have his family on the set, if possible an acting part for his wife in the film. And like Wayne (in his last 15 years) he preferred Directors who were easy to work with. It shows in his work. Some fine films of course. But no masterpieces here. (In 1974 he refused to work with Peckinpah, because he did not want to work with a drunk. Well Steve & Coburn got along fine with Peckinpah and the outcome was great: BONNER / GETAWAY / PAT GARRETT / CROSS OF IRON).
McQueen worked very hard on each of his films, he took his work very serious. That way you make fewer but better films (he more or less retired in 1974,
so of course he didn’t make nearly as many films as Bronson who reached his high that year).
I’d rather have to chose between Charlie and any other 70s / 80s action hero (minus Clint, Belmondo & Terence Hill), Charlie would always be TOP.
Some of you might enjoy my new book on Steve McQueen, 492 pages, 1020 photos.
i never like McQueen
I liked both, but I think the one who wins is Bronson. He simply is the tough guy, in spite of the fact that he wasn’t as good actor as McQueen.
Charles Bronson is my boy!
Yep, I would buy one 
.
When Charles Bronson died I actually had a small epiphany of sorts. I remember the day. Someone said to me, ‘Hey, guess what? Charles Bronson died.’
I said, ‘Huh? What the f**k’re you talkin’ about? What do you mean Charles Bronson died? Charles Bronson can’t die.’
Reality hit home that day and the world was never the same again.
RIP Charlie B! The granddad who used to whup ass and lay down the vengeance of God in wry deadpan with a face like a rock quarry that’d been dynamited.
I love you Charlie B!
Charles Bronson’s my boy!
No, I meant a real (:))) book on his body of work, like the 5 pound book I recently did on McQueen (500 pages, 1020 photos)
