The most boring Crea viewed so far. Severe punishment even for me.
one of the worst spaghettis i ever seen!!! there no shooting until the 92 minutes!!!
crap, crap, donāt bother! valeri heās only good for the day of anger and thatās it after that he directed some
of the most crapiest westerns,
I don`t agree one of the top 30 Spaghetti Westerns!!!
[quote=āsartana1968, post:122, topic:468ā]one of the worst spaghettis i ever seen!!! there no shooting until the 92 minutes!!!
crap, crap, donāt bother! valeri heās only good for the day of anger and thatās it after that he directed some
of the most crapiest westerns,[/quote]
Meaning: Per il gusto di uccidere and Il prezzo del potere are crap?
Canāt disagree more than that.
A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die (Valerii/72)
āA Reason to Live, A Reason to Dieā (1972) is a exciting, Civil War-set Spaghetti Western, directed by Sergio Leoneās protĆ©gĆ© Tonino Valerii and stars James Coburn, Telly Savalas and Bud Spencer.
The script by Rafael Azcona, Ernesto Gastaldi, Jay Lynn and Tonino Valerii is hardly original, amounting to nothing but a āDirty Dozenā rehash, but it is adequate: during the American Civil War, the disgraced Colonel Pembroke (James Coburn) tries to retake a heavily defended fort that was taken by the Confederates from him without a shot fired, a mystery that helps drive his character, by using twelve recruits who he has saved from death sentences.
Despite the lack of originality in the screenplay department, the spirited direction makes the story rattle along at a breathless pace to the expertly staged, wholesale carnage at the end. Throughout, the the three leads fare remarkably well and are the only ones who are given any sort of more than superficial examination of their past. The music by Riz Ortolani, all powerful horns, is masterly, compensating for uninteresting photography.
The fast pace and direction help raise this Spaghetti Western into a higher plane, turning it into a very, very enjoyable film.
[quote=āp.pereira, post:124, topic:468ā]Meaning: Per il gusto di uccidere and Il prezzo del potere are crap?
Canāt disagree more than that.[/quote]
I like Il prezzo del potere. Although maybe itās the Bacalov score that I like the most.
Yes. I think it is a underrated spaghetti, but Iām fan of Valerri wich means that Iām not a reliable source. My Spanish friend AdriĆ”n Esbilla (writer of http://esbilla.wordpress.com) have done a incredible resume of it:
āUn film escandalosamente desconocido y muy poco visto que supone una insĆ³lita reinterpretaciĆ³n del magnicidio Kennedy (La muerte de un presidente es su tĆtulo espaƱol) en los territorios del eurowestern. Dirigida con brillantez por Valerii y estupendamente interpretada por Giuliano Gemma, cuenta con la presencia del veterano Van Johnson en el papel de presidente. Un trabajo ambicioso, elegante y muy bien resuelto que acerca el gĆ©nero al thriller polĆtico para reflexionar (otra vez) sobre el compromiso, la corrupciĆ³n y el idealismo.ā
He included the movie in is 10 favourites spaghettis! His full list is available here:
[quote=āp.pereira, post:127, topic:468ā]Yes. I think it is a underrated spaghetti, but Iām fan of Valerri wich means that Iām not a reliable source. My Spanish friend AdriĆ”n Esbilla (writer of http://esbilla.wordpress.com) have done a incredible resume of it:
āUn film escandalosamente desconocido y muy poco visto que supone una insĆ³lita reinterpretaciĆ³n del magnicidio Kennedy (La muerte de un presidente es su tĆtulo espaƱol) en los territorios del eurowestern. Dirigida con brillantez por Valerii y estupendamente interpretada por Giuliano Gemma, cuenta con la presencia del veterano Van Johnson en el papel de presidente. Un trabajo ambicioso, elegante y muy bien resuelto que acerca el gĆ©nero al thriller polĆtico para reflexionar (otra vez) sobre el compromiso, la corrupciĆ³n y el idealismo.ā[/quote]
Wow, judging by that review he really liked it! I used to have it at the bottom of my top-20 but it has been nudged out now. To be honest, excluding āMy Name is Nobodyā, itās the only Valerii Iāve seen that I have any appreciation for. Unlike you, Iām not a huge Valerii fan.
That Spanish title āThe Death of a Presidentā is terrible. They should have stuck with the Italian one like they did in English.
Or the German one: Bloody Lead :ā(
That sounds bad too, but I think the Spanish one is still worse. Itās like calling the movie āTitanicā something like āThe sinking of a shipā!
Possibly short notice but for anyone in the UK, A reason to live is on ITV4, Saturday 12th Feb, 5pm.
ITV4 are outdoing themselves with repeats. This one was on last week too. Still, nice to see a non Leone Spaghetti getting some airtime in the UK.
Thatās because theyāre a pretty crap channel :P.
Well Iām not complaining since I didnāt realise it was on last week.
To be fair to them I watch ITV4 quite a bit because a lot of the stuff they endlessly repeat I quite like. The Champions, The Saint, The Sweeney etc. All old shows I still get a kick out of.
I thought I had commented on this film a few years ago; but, apparently, that isnāt the case.
No big deal, really, because all I have to say about the filmā¦even in its uncut formā¦is that it is one of the most boring of the medium-to-high budget Spaghetti Westerns I have ever seen.
I donāt even care that much for the music.
For the people that were involved in the making of this filmā¦it should have been spectacular. However, it is very very far from that.
I donāt think Iām saying anything wildly controversial hereā¦ It seemed entertaining enough for a couple of hours, but I probably wonāt watch it again. As others have said, it should have been better given the cast and the amount of money that had obviously been spent on it. Most of the characters seemed fairly underdeveloped (Savalas especially), so it was difficult to care about any of them really. Coburn and Spencer were reasonable, in spite of the script.
Iām not hugely sure which version I saw. Probably the cut version, or possibly something in between (there were a few scenes in a different aspect ratio, which suggested a different source). Iām not convinced a few extra scenes are magically going to improve the film though.
I saw it first in a 80 - 90 min version with a comedy dub and the violence cut down to child friendly action scenes.
Strangely enough, but it didnāt get better in the uncut version.
I think it`s a solid 4 star SW!!!1
92 minutes of BORING staff!!! after than this there was a small gunfight scene and thatās it!
one im my top 20 worst