A Reason to Live, a Reason to Die / Una ragione per vivere e una per morire (Tonino Valerii, 1972)

Here’s my review of the Wild East DVD:
https://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/A_Reason_to_Live%2C_a_Reason_to_Die_DVD_Review

A nice flick, but not really as good as 5 Man Army, I think…


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A nice flick, but not really as good as 5 Man Army, I think…
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5 man army sucks! its the a-team spaghetti of all time!

compare it with ā€œkill them all and come back aloneā€ in my opinion that is the best group hero spaghetti!

I don’t like ā€œ5 Man Armyā€ either, but it does have a really great title-tune by maestro Morricone :slight_smile:

This SW should be much, much better. The first half is so lala, but the second is astonishingly poorly made, a total disappointment. The script is without any ideas for the whole part where they infiltrate the fort, and Valerii’s flat direction of the action scenes kills the film definitely.

And is this really Telly Savalas or only a dummy of him?

I don’t think ā€œA reasonā€ is very good either, doesn’t it also feel a bit like an american western instead of a spaghetti?

Definately not one of my favourites. I would consider it as ā€˜solid average material’ !!!

I like it quite much. Well, it’s basically Dirty Dozen rip-off but I think it works well and it’s something quite different in the genre.

How do you feel about the different cuts? I prefer the shorter version a little bit. It has Coburn’s own voice and I like how the relationship between Bud Spencer and Coburn is more mysterious in shorter version. Longer one has some needless scenes too, like the one where Spencer is having a pee (though I’ve been wondering if Leone was parodying this scene in Valeriis My name is Nobody :P)

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what’s the wild east? the long one? it has the peeing scene

yes, Wild East’s version is the longer one. Longer version has the long introduction scene, peeing scene and maybe some others, also the dubbing and the music is different.

I have just received the Wild East version in the post, and looking forward to watching.
I may put Fort Yuma Gold on pre-order.
I have only seen A Reason To…, before on an old U.K VHS tape.

i[quote=ā€œENNIOO, post:10, topic:468ā€]I have just received the Wild East version in the post, and looking forward to watching.
I may put Fort Yuma Gold on pre-order.
I have only seen A Reason To…, before on an old U.K VHS tape.[/quote]
i also have only ever seen it on an old U.K guild tape, i will get the DVD when i have the money

I think this is an average movie. I like the premise but it doesn’t quite live up to it. The movie kind of drags on in the middle and the finale is somewhat lackluster (and it’s kind of spoiled by the beginning as well).

[quote=ā€œBill san Antonio, post:7, topic:468ā€]I like it quite much. Well, it’s basically Dirty Dozen rip-off but I think it works well and it’s something quite different in the genre.

How do you feel about the different cuts? I prefer the shorter version a little bit. It has Coburn’s own voice and I like how the relationship between Bud Spencer and Coburn is more mysterious in shorter version. Longer one has some needless scenes too, like the one where Spencer is having a pee (though I’ve been wondering if Leone was parodying this scene in Valeriis My name is Nobody :P)[/quote]

I’ve only seen the Wild East one and it’s a shame Coburn’s own voice isn’t in it. He has such a characteristic voice so the dub annoyed me slighlty.

that’s not coburn? it sounds a little like eastwood :wink:

Coburn was one of the original choices by Leone for the role of Joe in Fistful, but luckily in the end Eastwood got the part.

I don’t think Coburn would have been even half as good as Eastwood in the Dollars films :wink:

I’m not 100 % sure but on the Wild East disc it doesn’t sound like Coburn at all, it could be the dub that sounds wonky I guess. The trailer (on the same disc) sounds very different, there he sounds like Coburn should:)

The original english language release was severly cut and Coburn didn’t dub the cut scenes. So it isn’t Coburns voice on the uncut Wild East copy, just some unknown voice actor. Pity.

Ah thanks for clearing that up Cian, it was what I expected.

Concering Coburns dub,i have a vhs copy(Massacre at fort holman)and it is coburn’s voice.

I saw this movie for the first time this past weekend (Wild East version). Does anybody know where this was filmed? ā€œFort Holmanā€ is one of the most impressive and unique looking Spaghettii locations/sets I’ve ever seen.
I don’t recall seeing it in any other films (but there must be others). Surely this was not just a set constructed for the film…?

Thanks

No, it was build for an american production, the forgettable El Condor.

Also in Blindman, Ben & Charlie and several more.