[quote=“Stanton, post:277, topic:176”]Django Kill is the only anti-SW, made against the conditions of the genre. Critics called it then the only political italian westerns which could be taken serious.
Its dark strangeness is quite fascinating.[/quote]Would you not consider Grwat Silence an anti spaghetti western? It has snow instead of dust, and the hero dies at the end.
No.
Snow instead of dust is surely no criterion, only a diferent setting, a different atmosphere. The heroes death is also not uncommon in westerns or SWs.
Uncommon is the total triumph of the bad over the good. Uncommon is that this end is arbitrary (but produces then nevertheless automatically a “message”), or at least seems to be.
TGS has with this end aspects of an anti-western, and Corbucci was often working against genre conventions, but he was more doing this to provoke, not to work against the genre. Corbucci has broadened genre conventions, but not tried to destroy them.
Wow, this is my true favourite among the really low budget westerns. It’s even on my top-20! I love this film, and especially the score. Anyone know if the soundtrack is available somewhere?
Heehee. There is a wide diversity of opinion here on this forum. ![]()
I’ve had a disc of this one for a long time and still have yet to watch it. I’ve popped it in a few times and didn’t like how “green” it looked. But I DO need to check it out. I think I’ll like it more than Jonah Hex though.
Speaking of “green”-looking, low budget affairs of a similar stripe have you seen Death Played The Flute, Akasava?
[quote=“Phil H, post:275, topic:176”]That’s exactly what I like about it Korano. It is unique and, for all it’s faults, never boring.
However, I disagree with you about the music. I love the score on this film. :)[/quote]
I agree with Phil 100% on this one. And you DID sum it up nicely Korano. This one is now in my top 20 (but it took multiple viewngs to get there. It is a highy peculiar and idiosyncratic film. On first viewing I thought Questi was a hack but after multiple viewings and readng about Questi and seeing him interviewed I have now a diametrically opposite view than I did at first.
And I like the music too.
[quote=“Stanton, post:282, topic:176”]No.
Snow instead of dust is surely no criterion, only a diferent setting, a different atmosphere. The heroes death is also not uncommon in westerns or SWs.
Uncommon is the total triumph of the bad over the good. Uncommon is that this end is arbitrary (but produces then nevertheless automatically a “message”), or at least seems to be.
TGS has with this end aspects of an anti-western, and Corbucci was often working against genre conventions, but he was more doing this to provoke, not to work against the genre. Corbucci has broadened genre conventions, but not tried to destroy them.[/quote]
well said… Not every spaghetti western has the hero or anti-hero winning or living.
Yeah I like it. It even helped get my girlfriend into the spaghetti world a tiny bit more, so its a winner in my book
I just watched Soldier Blue again last night, and I think I prefer Apache Woman. Everything up till the end of Soldier Blue is just kinda “eh” and too light-hearted… I did forget how wild the end gets though. “say something pretty”
Just watch out for W Django by the Shango director.
C’mon Silence! W Django? Umiliani’s Score alone makes it a good trip.
I thought W Django was better than Shango.
W Django is fairly commonly acknowledged as a pretty good/enjoyable entry in straightforward spaghettiness, especially if you have the NEW release
If W Django’s the worse you’ve seen, ya got a ways to go friend 
W Django is fun!
IMO one of the better SW with Anthony Steffen. 
W Django was the first non-Leone spaghetti I’d seen. I don’t remember much about it other than making me realize that most of the genre probably wasn’t better than your average B-movie.
if its been that long, I recommend a rewatch with the excellent quality NEW release. The originallity of the film will not change, but I’m sure your enjoyment will be increased ![]()
I got the cheap “Ein Fressen für Django”-DVD. Is the new NEW so much better?
I have the NEW edition and I’m afraid I still don’t think much of the film. Just seems to be one action sequence after another with nothing of any real interest going on at any point.
Don’t get me wrong, it is nowhere near the worsty spaghetti western I’ve seen. It’s just not very good. IMO anyway.
Its uncut, anamorphic with great picture quality, and features the English, Italian & German audio tracks…
I never had the one you have though, so I can’t really say on comparison.
beats the hell out of the one available in the US though
[quote=“Phil H, post:296, topic:176”]I have the NEW edition and I’m afraid I still don’t think much of the film. Just seems to be one action sequence after another with nothing of any real interest going on at any point.
Don’t get me wrong, it is nowhere near the worsty spaghetti western I’ve seen. It’s just not very good. IMO anyway.[/quote]
I do not disagree with you. It is definitely one action sequence after another with no real substance, but this is also the reason I hold more respect for the film than many others who tried to have substance and failed miserably… this one spares us having to sit through one of those failed attempts and gets down to business… its a great one to put on when you’re in the mood for a quick, mindless spaghetti fix without any waiting
How long is yours running?
Mine says, oh man 78’, that’s definetly cut…
[quote=“Dillinger, post:299, topic:176”]How long is yours running?
Mine says, oh man 78’, that’s definetly cut…[/quote]
NEW edition states running time as 90 minutes.
According to Giusti’s Dizionario the original italian release running time was 95.
So yes, 78 is cut a fair bit.