The Price of Death / Il venditore di morte (Enzo Gicca Palli, 1971)

G. Garko and K. Kinsky in a snooze fest. :oā€¦ I struggled to stay awake the entire time hoping for something exciting to happen, but nooooooooooo, and nothing in it is worth watching for. Pffft!

On second viewing I thought this was quite all right. If Dominique Badou would have appeared like the picture above things would definitely have been more interesting, even so she about knocks herself out with clothes on :slight_smile:

@JonathanCorbett, isnā€™t this Giovanni Sabbatini?

and amongst the fighting miners

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Itā€™s him, his SW filmography is constantly increasing! :slight_smile:

Hiā€¦ maybe is late butā€¦jonathan Corbettā€¦ which is your idea?

I think someoneā€™s mad a double booby!

I still donā€™t think that the porn scenes were ever intended for The Price of Death.

But I meanwhile watched an uncut version of Di Leoā€™s La bestia uccide a sangue freddo, which indeed shows some really explicit stuff. But I think as there are only vagina close ups (and much too hairy) these were shot with body doubles.
Jonathan do you think that these scenes (which could be easily removed) were really in the then released theatrical version?

The main difference is that porn stuff wouldnā€™t make much sense in The Price of Death, while Fernando Di Leo, a real erotomaniac, made a sex film which only is on the surface a giallo. Di Leo is less interested in the forgettable murder mystery, but in the bodies of his beautiful actresses. The thrill was not who is the killer, but how far will Di Leo go when his camera caresses the female bodies, and he went more far than expected.

Yes i think the hardcore sequence were in the theatrical release for the USA. I think that as other many italian b movie this was distribuited in the usa by API. API since the 1970 distribuited in the art theatre of USA hard core movie (as Mona the virgin nymph and school girl). It is possible that a hc version was for that market.

Itā€™s very so, Stanton.

I donā€™t know for Neri, but in Strebel and Garret cases there are continuous shots.

At first the authorization for public showing was denied. About three weeks later - after the usual appeal - Di Leoā€™s movie was rated VM18 with cuts (sexual intercourse in the greenhouse and lesbian kisses) and all references to incest removed. So itā€™s reasonable to think that female masturbation and pussy close-ups werenā€™t in the copy submitted to censors.

Thatā€™s true for the hardcore stuff but not for the unclothed version of the first killing, and the reverse is true for the scene in which Garko enters through the window surprising the girl ā€œat workā€.

I think that the scene was intended for the movie (towards the beginning we see cowboys and girls going up and down the Saloon stairs), but certainly not for the theatrical release.

Politicians, industrialists, VIPs of those years.

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I donā€™t remember that exactly, but I think you are right.

An unclothed scene is of course possible, and is nothing special for any 70s film.

But a scene which breaks a tabu is a very different thing.

Politicianā€¦ vipā€¦ JonathancCorbett means private loop films. But why not a version for the usa market that just in that year was full of successful lowbudget hc moviesā€¦?

Because it is a different thing to have a real HC film, and a ā€œnormalā€ film with a little HC stuff.

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We don t know exactly how many hc scenes were. We have only few photos. And , more important, at that time it was usual to insert few hc scenes for more explicit version for different market ( for example the version with hc scenes of thriller - a cruel picture). In the USA Art Theatre in 1971 a version with hc insert of a movie could be better sold i guess.

OK, let us consider this example.

Excerpt from Movie-Censorship.com:

(ā€¦) few months after the movie was completed, Thriller got the first movie to be forbidden in itā€™s uncensored form in the normally very tolerant country of Sweden. Therefore, Vibenius had a hard time to sell his movie, let alone to find a film distributor to release his movie; the distributor that in the end wanted to release the movie did not shy away from cutting and censoring the movie in any way the studio wanted to. In the American version of the movie (ā€¦) the hardcore sex-scenes were all cut out again, and several scenes including violence were censored as well. Overall, about 25 minutes of the movie were taken out.

And this in the years 1973/74ā€¦

I really like this one. Itā€™s already quite a strange film at times, so the porno scenes must have really taken this film to another level.

Only that there is no proof that the porn scenes were ever intended for that movie here. I still donā€™t believe that.

The inserted porn scenes from Thriller are as idiotic as a scene can be. They damage the film.

Itā€™s obvious they were not intended for the film and would most certainly damage it but it would be a laugh to see how they tried to tie them in with the rest of the story.

Itā€™s a pity you canā€™t turn the subtitle off on the X-Rated DVD. Am I right that the Koch release does not contain the English dub?

Well the main title track to this one and a couple of the other score tracks would not be out of place in a 70ā€™s porno. Kinski was wasted as his role could have been played by someone less high profile, but a nice beer cheque for the star. Nice flippant role for the star, and what a super looking hat. Viewed the fandub of the Koch disc, and only noticed I have never viewed this one before after reading this thread. Not much action in this one, especially for a 70ā€™s one, and I guess some people will not like the detective basis for the film. So it would not surprise me if their were different versions to this one for different markets.

How to find those hidden pics?

Pretty good movie, only slapstick and far too predictable ending were downs.

And score was brilliant but should have been in more use.

Great PQ in koch disc :star_struck:

Decent film. I just got the Koch DVD since I threw away the shitty ā€˜Sartana Sagaā€™ set.

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