[quote=“Stanton, post:3900, topic:141”]He says not much about the differences between the US and the european version. Only that the eu misses the 1st scene with the apaches leaving the reservation.
Apparently the “uncut” german DVD is due to the same worldwide Universal release the US version, probably the reason why it got a new dub, which everyone hates.
You can find the different scenes somewhere in Youtube.[/quote]
I read the Hughes chapter again last night. Interesting about the cuts regarding the horse tripping.
I wonder what is the source of the Thai DVD I have. I forgot to check for that. I only checked the run time. It is listed as 99 minutes. It has all the gory parts and the scene of Ulzana et al leaving the Res.
Interesting too about the dub. I’m glad I get to hear Lancaster as Lancaster.
I’ve always been interested in Ulzana’s Raid as I’ve seen the final of Soldier Blue which seemed VERY preachy and I hate films that preach. Well, not hate but it shows lack of subtlety. Trying to hammer a subject.
Anyway, thanks to Bad Lieutenants link in 30’s westerns, I watched a classic John Wayne serial film, “Sagebrush Trail” (1932). Entertaining as hell. But it’s kinda like bad good. It is very chap and cheasy but good classic stunts are very well done by Yakima Canutt and Wayne is very good at liteally leaping into his horses saddle. I meen, he actually jumps into the saddle! Aparently when he was yonug he had something if a stuntman in him. Reminds me of Giuliano Gemma. Interestinglack of coninuity. Starts out in the 1930’a but by the end, we are definitely in the 1800’s. Oh well. Doesn’t matter!
I think I’ll wash it all down with a true classic. The Big Gundown. Watching an old serial can really tire you out.
[quote=“Romaine Fielding, post:3901, topic:141”]I read the Hughes chapter again last night. Interesting about the cuts regarding the horse tripping.
I wonder what is the source of the Thai DVD I have. I forgot to check for that. I only checked the run time. It is listed as 99 minutes. It has all the gory parts and the scene of Ulzana et al leaving the Res.
Interesting too about the dub. I’m glad I get to hear Lancaster as Lancaster.[/quote]
Most likely it’s the US version.
The violence is in all version the same. The european version contained more scenes which were critical towards the military.
Concerning the dub, I was of course only talking about the german dub. For the extended version in 1984 they used the same voices for the new scenes as 12 years before. Only 12 years, but they sounded quite different, so that you could identify some of the new scenes by listening to the dub.
For Ulzana’s Raid: the longest version is also the best as it fleshes out the story and the characters.
I’m sure we will get sometimes a special edition which will contain all 3 versions.
What a great cast to this film !, and love the oufits the guys have in this one (including the hats). Not many actors can equal Lancaster in the same film, but Marvin does a fine job. May not be the most original of stories, but that does not matter as this is one very enjoyable western, with a fine score by Maurice Jarre.
As for me, the Big gundown. Another rewatching sure but something happened. When first saw this film ,I did like it. Good Spaghetti Western. This time, I thought it was great. Great story, characters, actors, writting. Everything. There is just soomething about Cleef travelling around Mexico. A big Gringo im these downtrodden villages. Great movie.
A decent (but very average) Anthony Steffen Western. Entertaining and at the end we got to see a little surprise! I watched the DVD from NEW and IMO the quality was quite good. One of the SW where the Hero has the Name Django (in all Versions?) but has nothing to do with the Original Django of Franco Nero.
Yesterday I watched “Si può fare… Amigo” (1972, Mauricio Lucidi). This movie stars Bud Spencer and Jack Palance.
I’ve watched once when I was a kid, I liked it better back then.
[quote=“ENNIOO, post:3905, topic:141”]The Professionals (1966) has been viewed.
What a great cast to this film !, and love the oufits the guys have in this one (including the hats). Not many actors can equal Lancaster in the same film, but Marvin does a fine job. May not be the most original of stories, but that does not matter as this is one very enjoyable western, with a fine score by Maurice Jarre.
Top notch viewing for this chap![/quote]
Yeah, great movie. One of my favorite south of the border westerns. CC looks great. As you say, Burt is the best but Marvin is fantastic too.
Thanks to Scherp I also could load my DVD player with Wagonmaster.
Im always surprised that in every Ford western there are more of these odd humour scenes than I had remembered. If only he would have skipped these awful shit and if he had handeled the sexual substructures in a more mature way, then this would be one of the best westerns ever.
It’s still one of Ford’s most personal and rich films. A real beauty.
For some inexplicable reason I revisited (after a number of years) Acquasanta Joe :P. I nearly changed my mind and reached for eject at about 6 minutes in, when instead of there being a massacre of the fooled rebs, there was a ‘comedy’ moment with people scurrying away in their underwear, to a soundtrack of some ridiculous circusy-clown nonsense. However, by the time I’d took a trip to the fridge and returned, things (other than the soundtrack) had marginally improved, so I persevered. Frederico Boido turned up and I always reckon he’s ok, but unfortunately he lasted about as long as me taking my first swig of cider … oh well!
This film, does pick up a bit tho’ and is maybe not as bad as some might say, BUT it is ruined by the hotch-potch of musical accompaniments that are completely out of place. These range from riffing rock, funky disco-y rhythms, clown-music and trad country - ALL of it dreadful!
I think it may be sensible to not bother watching this one again, and maybe a little silly to revisit it when I’ve got so many others on the ‘to watch’ pile. I think I just wanted something ‘unstretching’ after a few days of hard work and maybe couldn’t give a better film my full attention.
Decided to cheer myself up by watching the Previews to Kill compilation and have decided that I NEED to see Robert Woods in Say your prayers and Dig your Grave except unfortunately I don’t have this one (yet). It looks like a goodie and like one I would enjoy … I seem to recall talk about this one on the forum, so I’ll find out what people have to say about it.
Another one, of quite a few on this compilation, that I don’t own, was Vengeance Ranch (aka Una Donna per Ringo) - this on the other hand looked like a complete pile of (comedy-ish) crap, but as it stars two twin sharpshooting sisters seems like one of the odder entries - anybody seen this?
I watched the DVD from NEW and IMO the quality was quite good. One of the SW where the Hero has the Name Django (in all Versions?) but has nothing to do with the Original Django of Franco Nero.
If you’re asking me about “usage” of flesh out in English…