The Last Western You Watched? ver.2.0


(tomas) #301

Let’s do the Fulci. I mean his westerns, which is only part of his oeuvre I had paid attention to so far (and it’s probably not going to change, since I don’t care much about giallo and other shit). I rewatched recently all of them and here are the results:

Four Of The Apocalypse - Absolute wonder, almost every scene is a little shiny gem. My only complaint is that Fabio Testi turns out to be the main protagonist. But okay. Be it my way, Tomas Milian’s Chaco would get more screentime and he would kick the living hell out of Testi’s arse in the end. Rating: 100%

Massacre Time - Pretty good and very brutal too. Can’t really complain about anything, I like it even more than the first time. Maybe that main baddie should suffer in a more spectacular way, he just went down too cheap. Bull-whipping scene is the best I’ve seen of this kind. Rating: 80%

Silver Saddle: Starts off great with that Brixio and Co. music, didn’t care much about the song though. After about half an hour the greatness somehow dissipates. One would assume that because of the kid, since every western aficionado knows that spaghs and kids is a bad combination. But, surprisingly, the kid is not the problem. There’s not much interesting going on in the middle part (except for Leticia Lentini) and things get awfully silly in some scenes, like for example, a kid shooting the hat off the Gemma’s head. With sawn-off shotgun. With a very short barrel. I wonder if the director was somewhat aware of what sort of projectiles comes out of that. Or maybe he really was and Geoffrey Lewis’ character, which I liked a lot, used slugs instead of pellets. But then why to shorten the weapon. To make things a little more confusing, in the very first scene of the movie, a man is clearly shot with pellets, so go figure (but with different shotgun, so they knew :rofl:) Rating: 60%


#302

Silver Saddle is embarrassingly bad.


(Mickey13) #303

I’ve always kinda liked Silver Saddle for some reason, oh well. Four of the Apocalypse is definitely a superior Fulci film though.


(tomas) #304

Howdy there, @Mickey13, long time no see. :wink: Yes, yes, superior certainly.


(Mickey13) #305

Hello, Tomas, it’s really nice to see you too! Haven’t posted anything here in a while, but hopefully it will change now.

First and foremost, I have to rework my entire Essential Top 20, some big changes coming up. Blindman is definitely going to end up somewhere in my Top 5 or 10. I have no idea why, but it’s one of these few spaghetti westerns that has remained a truly big favorite of mine and still feels as fresh as it was during my first viewing. I am well aware of the fact that it’s basically a WiP film disguised as a western and a perfect example of a style-over-substance filmmaking, but there is something truly fascinating about the rendition and its overall style. Cipriani’s score is definitely a big plus as well, no doubt. Cemetery Without Crosses is likely to appear high on that list too. Overall, I guess my taste has somewhat shifted throughout all these years and the list will surely reflect that.

As for Four of the Apocalypse, I re-watched it not that long ago and liked it even more the second time around. It’s probably one of his best movies, up there with his gialli efforts. I never cared about his Zombie/Zombi 2 which I thought was extremely erratic and not that interesting TBH. Other than some impressive gore effects, there is not much to discuss or to take interest in. It’s an okay movie, but not one that stays in mind for long, at least in my estimation that is.


(tomas) #306

I’d like to see that. Yes, I have similar feelings about Blindman. Never cared much about Cemetery senza croci, but I’ve seen it almost ten yrs ago, so rewatch is on the program, maybe I’ll change my mind.

What’s that?

I actually might seen this one, not sure, these italian zombie, cannibal or what have you are just completely pointless movies for me, that I pretty much forgot everything about them. :slight_smile: Maybe I’ll give a go to some of his giallos one day, just to be sure, that I’m not missing much or on the contrary a whole lot of fun.


(tomas) #307

My two cents on Tony’s westerns. Just take it easy. I’ve been already told on facebook, that Silent Stranger is a hunk of crap and Get Mean even worse, so feel free to express yourself in any way you want. :smiley:

Tony Anthony’s spaghetti westerns. I’ve rewatched almost all of them recently and in a better video quality than last time, so let’s have a look at them. Are they still that good or did I like them so much back then, because my crave for the genre wasn’t fulfilled and I would celebrate any garbage as masterpiece? Yes, these are the questions that bothers seasoned spaghetti western masochist as myself.

A Stranger In Town - Minimalist spagh introducing Tony’s coolnes and establishing my favorite spaghetti western character of all time. Suck on that Django and Man With No Name. I still love it for what it is, but slower and repetitive middle part, although featuring Gia Sandri as dominatrix, is a bit of a bumper, but really only slightly. Also the score is weakest of the Stranger series, but the main theme is still very listenable. Final showdown is one of the best I’ve seen in SWs. Rating: 80%

The Stranger Returns - Director Luigi Vanzi delivers a sequel which is even better than his first effort, without any bumper areas and accompanied by highly listenable soundtrack by Stelvio Cipriani. Final showdown is undertaken with the help of a four-barreled shotgun and although I can imagine they could do more with it during the combat, it still features one of the most funny takedowns of all time. The theme playing during the duel between Stranger and Dan Vadis wasn’t on a soundtrack, what a shame, because it’s pretty cool. Rating: 90%

The Silent Stranger - Third and last Vanzi’s entry into the spaghetti realm of The Stranger. It actually starts off with a weird scene in a shack in Klondike. If I was the director, I would do an outdoor scene in a snow (not a problem, I think, since we see Tony running across the snowy lanscape at the very beginning), and without that silly hanging scene. But after that everything’s great. A scene after scene is one marvel after another stuffed with many inventive ideas, engaging story, funny dialogues and an original surroundings, which you probably haven’t seen in any other western. Well, almost whole film was shot in Japan and The Stranger is battling samurais with katanas. Once again, The Stranger gets his revenge in the end with the help of a weapon of mass destruction :slight_smile: , but since we are far away from his homeland and shotguns are not available, he has to come out with something else. Oh, and Stelvio Cipriani once again delivers superb soundtrack. For me, this spagh is TOP 5 material. Rating: 100%

Get Mean - Ferdinando Baldi’s installment in The Stranger series. Hated by many, loved by very few. Well, maybe not, I didn’t do statistics, but it is less favourited than its predecessors. Anyway, I belong to the latter group. I love it for what is, and if you have no idea what it is, go and watch it and be amazed or offended. Great track by Bixio and Co. Rating: 90%

Blindman - Haven’t seen this one in a long time, but i remember it was amazing and I don’t think I would change my mind on it, so very much recommended. Baldi at its finest. Rating: 100%

Comin’ At Ya - Again Baldi. Made as a 3D movie, yes, they had something like that back then too, with a lot of spectacular looking scenes, nevertheless, this is the only instance I didn’t like a western Tony starred in. It is not a part of Stranger series, but quite similar and it also repeats the theme from Blindman (women trafficking), but it doesn’t work for me. Also, the final showdown is laughable and quite silly when compared to the final combats in the previous movies. Rating: 50%


(Mickey13) #308

Women in prison film

I’ve seen his Lizard in a Woman’s Skin, The Psychic and Don’t Torture a Duckling. All of them are very highly recommended films. And this is coming from someone who isn’t a die-hard giallo fan, these are simply excellent movies which show that Fulci was also capable of making stylish and fairly subtle flicks. None of them are particularly gory or bloody too.


(Phil H) #309

My favourite Anthony western is still definitely Blindman but the first couple of Stranger films I also remember fondly. The third one less so. Probably due a re-visit actually. I watched Get Mean not that long ago and it certainly is a much better experience on the new Bluray release but still not a favourite of mine. It does have a certain bonkers charm about it though. Comin’ at Ya is one I am still yet to see but am not in any real hurry if I’m honest.


(Phil H) #310

Forsaken (Cassar / 2015)

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Got this as a Christmas present a year and a bit ago but only just got around to it this weekend.
It’s fine but more than a little predictable. To be honest I think it’s a good example of why the western will never make a real comeback as a popular genre. It’s a vehicle for older leading men being reluctant heroes. If they want to win a younger audience there needs to be more action and less crying and soul searching. It’s an OK oater of the modern variety but I couldn’t really recommend it.


#311

‘Comin at Ya’ isn’t really a film at all … just a series of clichéd set ups to show off the 3D effects, which in the old anaglyph red and cyan version I’ve seen, doesn’t really work … at least not on TV.
I know this was given the re-mastered treatment, so no doubt it looks a lot better, but it’s still a lousy movie.


(tomas) #312

Yes, @aldo, my thoughts exactly.


(tomas) #313

Yeah, it helps. Not that I wasn’t fan of it before. :grinning:


(Sebastian) #314

Last night I saw Bone Tomahawk for the third time :slight_smile: Still think it might be Jenkins’ best performance


(Mickey13) #315

I really loved Bone Tomahawk, excellent stuff.


(Stanton) #316

Mickey, what do you think of the photography?


(Mickey13) #317

In Bone Tomahawk? As far I remember, the cinematography was digital/modern looking, but it somehow suited the general atmosphere and grittiness of the motion picture. I also cherished the fact that there was hardly or no music used in the movie which made things even more tense. I’d have to re-watch it to be more precise in my assessment (watched like a year ago or so), but overall I really liked Bone Tomahawk. I’ve no idea why there aren’t more western/horror hybrids of this kind.


(James Flessas ) #318

Death Rides a Horse. El Dorado , The Missouri Breaks , And Rio Conchos


(tomas) #319

Django Il Bastardo
I realized that I have to rewatch this urgently. Well, it’s seven years I’d seen it and remembered only bits and pieces. So, what are the thoughts now, when I’m a grown up and I exchanged words “guilty pleasure” for a much more mature currency: “Responsibility”. I have to say the thoughts are pretty much the same as last time. Except for a two short scenes, I love it. I promote Sergio Garonne to a Fourth Sergio. Sorry, Sergio Martino, you are now fifth Sergio. And by the way, your postapocalyptic flicks suck big time. Rating: Solid 80%


(JonathanCorbett) #320

The scene in which Williams hums while opening a bottle of champagne?