Was just thinking the same about De Nero while starting to read your post, ENNIOO. I wonder just how many of these gangster roles he’s done now
A fair few indeed 
. He is 70 now, and wonder how many more of these type of roles he will do from now on.
Yeah I liked The Family alot, probably the best movie i’ve seen from this year
[url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/0xau.jpg/[/url] ONE FALSE MOVE (1992, Carl Franklin)
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Sometimes it pays off to have a look at those lists with so-called overlooked movies from a decade. One False Move (1992) was not released theatrically until it was brought to the attention of some influential film critics (among them Roger Ebert and Hal Hinson) who loved it.
It opens with a series of grisly murders following a seemingly simple robbery in Los Angeles; three people are involved, two escaped convicts and the girlfriend of one of them (who introduced them to the victims, not knowing what they were up to). The three end up in a small town in Arkansas, where the girl comes from. Two L.A. police officers have followed the trail of the murderers and team up with a local sheriff to put up a trap. What they don’t know, is that the sheriff and the girl know each other … know each other very well …
Unlike Ebert I don’t think this is a masterpiece, but it’s a fine movie nonetheless, a sort of cross between road movie, neo-noir and neo-western, more relying on interaction between the characters than on action (but if it comes, it’s pretty violent). Co-written by Billy Bob Thornton, with some of his laconic absurdities shining through on dialogue level (especially in a conversation about a deaf man’s cousin). Excellent performances, with Bill Paxton being a standout as the sheriff. Recommended.
7,5 out of 10
Machete Kills - This movie is pretty terrible, so much that I don’t even know where to, or if, I should begin.
I went in expecting to really have a good time and maybe this negatively affected the viewing, but by 30 min in I was still holding onto hope but yet to see anything good.
Rodriguez really went to town with the super cheap CGI in this one. I know he’s been embracing digital technology for a long time, but this film is full of really bad CGI that is stuff you would see by amateurs on youtube. Its not that I can’t look past terrible CGI - see my recent high marks for Alex Cox’s Repo Chick, which goes way beyond Machete Kills with usage of low quality CGI. But these effects are used to different ends in these films, with Rodriguez just going to town in a lazy way that calls for no creativity and instead just does any and everything on the table. The CGI usage in Machete Kills really drives home how much better traditional movie effects can make a film, showing that they can make a horrible movie somewhat enjoyable just by appreciating the effects. Even when traditional effects aren’t believable, they are still enjoyable to watch whereas bad CGI is almost insulting.
The whole film really leaves the impression that a bunch of no-talent-dudes decided to make an action movie based on what pop-culture thinks is cool and funny, without really knowing what makes bad action films good. The result is this mess of a satire that isn’t funny or enjoyable, but just beyond obvious, mundane and dull. Rodriguez should know how to make this film, and the fact he produced this makes things all the worse.
Even the direction lacks style, and instead is done in the typical new-wave of constant cutting with no creative camera work. Machete Kills feels like it was made for TV by a no-name TV director.
I liked the original Machete and Rodriguez is really disappointing with this sequel. Even if restricted for budget reasons, his first film was leagues beyond this in every aspect, and actually had some blood in its body.
I originally was planning on seeing at cinema, but no theaters in my city (or state) played this film, I guess because it was such a huge flop. Originally I just chalked this up to the type of film it is, but its actually just really bad.
The best part of the film is the credit sequence.
Was looking forward to watching this one, maybe watch when I am multi tasking or something 
Well, tomas liked it quite a bit and I’m sure he’s not alone…
Maybe I was just expecting too much from it, but I can’t say I wasn’t in a proper viewing mood because I was excited to watch.
In any case, would be interested to hear other’s opinions.
Its one of those films I have a hard time formulating my thoughts on exactly what is wrong with it. As soon as I start listing a reason, it ends up sounding like reasons I’ve loved other films, or had no problems with in other films
[quote=“autephex, post:10587, topic:1923”]Well, tomas liked it quite a bit and I’m sure he’s not alone…
Maybe I was just expecting too much from it, but I can’t say I wasn’t in a proper viewing mood because I was excited to watch.
In any case, would be interested to hear other’s opinions.
Its one of those films I have a hard time formulating my thoughts on exactly what is wrong with it. As soon as I start listing a reason, it ends up sounding like reasons I’ve loved other films, or had no problems with in other films :D[/quote]
i came to a conclusion that i like bad bad bad movies
i don’t know - well, i thought first Machete was weak and the second one delivered more stuff i wanted to see - whole segment with Gibson is hilarious, although some scenes in first half weren’t nothing special
bad CGI? common … i enjoyed that bullshit wholeheartedly
i hope Machete Kills In Space will be similar in tone
@i came to a conclusion that i like bad bad bad movies
Well, here’s one for you mate! ;D Death Promise…- YouTube - check out the title song, it’s kinda groovy/catchy 
[quote=“chameleon, post:10589, topic:1923”]@i came to a conclusion that i like bad bad bad movies
Well, here’s one for you mate! ;D Death Promise…- YouTube - check out the title song, it’s kinda groovy/catchy :D[/quote]
oh my
Birdemic - Shock & Terror[/url]
Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter
Ultrachrist![url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbykx7OKajI
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this one’s my favorite Tommy Wiseau’s The Room [url]- YouTube
[quote=“last.caress, post:10591, topic:1923”]Birdemic - Shock & Terror[/url]
Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DAcjNpWnmc]Ultrachrist![url]- YouTube
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mwahaha, just skip to 19:00 min of JC Vampire Hunter, that action sequence is really something ;D
don’t be afraid the dark 1973
I like a lot of “bad movies” but this new wave of movies that intentionally try to be bad is really hit or miss for me.
To me, they need to contain that special something aside from just being “bad”
Machete Kills falls within the category of these new intentionally bad movies which does nothing to try and go beyond the obvious, no real effort to make it a good bad movie. It just hits all the key notes that a “bad” movie “should” hit with no real originality or creative filmmaking, and to me it even manages to not entertain as an action flic.
All the crap I wrote in my first post about Machete Kills can be disregarded as there are plenty of films I like a lot with the same elements. In the end, its just poorly executed and doesn’t work for me.
After thinking some more regarding exactly what I don’t like about Machete Kills, it occurs to me that the film is more like one big photoshoot for promotional material. Lots of shots of stylistic characters, faces, and stylistic characters holding stylistic weapons, but the action and camerawork is non-existent.
Rodriguez has been leaning towards doing this more and more in each film he’s made, and now to the point where the bulk of the film is just based on stylistic characters but the actual action is totally neglected. So is the writing/dialogue… dialogue was super weak, although some of the ideas were funny like Gibson’s whole spiritual organization, should have been way weirder/funnier than it was, but its all just sorta weak
I was sort of disappointed in the first one and preferred this… didn’t really like with what they did with Robert De Niro and Seagal at the end … just thought it had a more satisfying ending and Mel Gibson was a much stronger villain, imo
Well looks like I’m getting outnumbered here on Machete Kills
Maybe I’ll revisit it after some time and see if my opinion has changed.
One thing I was also wondering about is if the copy I viewed was cut at all. One I viewed is from a view on demand network called OSN. The official runtime states 107min and the runtime on this copy is 103min (including both trailers at beginning and end). Not a huge difference but if there was several graphic/offensive/whatever scenes cut that could make a lot of difference.
anyway
watched yesterday RIPD aka Rest In Peace Department
for those who don’t know it’s a post mortem fantasy adventure with Ryan Reynolds and Jeff Bridges
well, there’s not much love for this movie out there and it was also a big theatre bomb similar to Lone Ranger, with lot of movie fans complaining just about everything
i don’t know
why they didn’t let Terry Gilliam to direct it? it would be … maybe … awesome
but i somehow liked it - lot of people didn’t appreciate Jeff Bridges’ performance i did (ooh, he is talking like if he’d have a hot potato in his mouth, oooh he is just repeating True Grit persona and so on), i also enjoyed some action - when a wild skyscraper chase happened i thought this is getting better and better but actually from that point it started to be worse and worse
and denouement ala Ghostbusters really left me cold …
when i think about it, i enjoyed the talkative parts the best and CGI heavy parts a lot less
i’m just bored by these movies like Man Of Steel or this, in which lot of buildings have to be destroyed for whatever reason
^RIPD
he,he…I posted something on it in Reply #10449. 