The Great Silence / Il grande silenzio (Sergio Corbucci, 1968)

What a dark and magnificent movieā€¦ I think this is the most tragical film Iā€™ve ever seen :ā€™(, and one of the best westerns.

The Dark Side of the Spaghetti :stuck_out_tongue:

Poor Silenzio. He couldnā€™t do anythingā€¦ :ā€™( :ā€™( :ā€™(

Klaus Kinski is not only evil. Heā€™s the Satan himself. ;D

My favorite Corbucci. Jean Louis T? Well, since he didnā€™t need to do dialogue, he probably worked cheap.

It is my understanding that he didnā€™t want any dialogue. He demanded this, otherwise he wouldnā€™t be in the picture. So they came up with this character who had his throat slit and wasnā€™t able to speak. But, Iā€™m not exactly sure whether this is all true. Maybe somebody else can shed some light on this?

[quote=ā€œBad Lieutenant, post:83, topic:122ā€]It is my understanding that he didnā€™t want any dialogue. He demanded this, otherwise he wouldnā€™t be in the picture. So they came up with this character who had his throat slit and wasnā€™t able to speak. But, Iā€™m not exactly sure whether this is all true. Maybe somebody else can shed some light on this?[/quote]I recall it was Marcello Mastroianni who suggested the idea of mute gunslinger to Corbucci.
Corbucci wanted Franco Nero to play Silence at first but Nero was making some other film at the time. I think Trigninant is perfect in his role. Thereā€™s something sad in his face which fits to his role.

[quote="Bill san Antonio, post:84, topic:122"]I think Trigninant is perfect in his role. There's something sad in his face which fits to his role.[/quote]

You are spot on there Bill. there is something in the sadness of Trigninantā€™s face which makes the ending almost inevitable.

Do you think with Nero in the lead, the film would be different?

I like Trintignant always, and he is great as Silence. But I think Nero could have played it equally.

He he, your spelling is completely wrong. But, fuck, mine was too, had to change it after looking in a book.
Speaking his name is also tricky.

[quote=ā€œstanton, post:87, topic:122ā€]He he, your spelling is completely wrong. But, fuck, mine was too, had to change it after looking in a book.
Speaking his name is also tricky.[/quote]Usually Iā€™m kind of precise about names but I wrote that in hurry and didnā€™t have time to check it. I have never learnt to pronounce his name correctly.

most French names are a handful to pronounce

I think that it wouldā€™ve been quite different. I canā€™t see Nero playing Silence. Jean Louis was perfect for the part.

A fantastic film and one that gets better with every viewing. I donā€™t mind the happy ending, itā€™s great to see the bounty killers get theirs, but I do prefer the original unhappy ending, quite unique. Morriconeā€™s music is brilliant in this film, unusual for a SW but perfect for the snowy setting. A true classic of the genre, itā€™s a pity they didnā€™t make a prequel :frowning:

I found this Corbucci quote about the happy ending of TGS.

ā€œI couldnā€™t do anything about it, I had no choice but to film it again otherwise Iā€™d have had real problems. But, in agreement with Trintignant and the other actors, I filmed it almost as if it were to be a comedy, filming with less frames than necessary so really it was impossible to edit it. In fact, they didnā€™t edit it.ā€
  • on being forced to re-shoot the ending of ā€œIl Grande Silenzioā€

That happy ending is really comic. Itā€™s on youtube, when you want to laugh ;D ;D ;D
Thank God they didnā€™t make it so. It would ruin everythingā€¦ the tragic ending makes this movie so unique.

Here it is:
[url]The great silence - alternative ending - YouTube
You can even see Trintignant laughing at one point :stuck_out_tongue:

Just finished watching this film, I gave it 4 out 5. I canā€™t really add anything new to whatā€™s been said other than I think I enjoy this film for the same reasons most of us do: the unusual setting, the heroā€™s disability and the ending, among other things.

That happy ending is a complete flop - glad to have watched it but glad they used the unhappy ending. I couldnā€™t see it ending any other way. Plus when Trintignant smiles that great big smile it just doesnā€™t fit!!!

Strange isnā€™t it how we all canā€™t imagine any other ending now but when I first saw it I was genuinely shocked at it. I mean Corbucci subverts a very heavy genre convention of the hero winning in the end even if not ā€˜happilyā€™. I remember being quite stunned by it at first but now Iā€™m like everyone else and think itā€™s the ā€˜rightā€™ ending.
Credit to Corbucci for successfully pulling that off so well.

Recent blogger review of the film, here.[url]http://drunkenoncelluloid.blogspot.com/2007/09/great-silence-sergio-corbucci-1968.html[/url] Marginal, in my opinion, but happy to see the film given some attention.

Iā€™m probably the only one here who thinks this, but I wasnā€™t too crazy about the negative ending. It was just too damn depressing! Maybe Iā€™m just an old fashioned gringoā€¦but I prefer the traditional ā€œgood guy wins, bad guy losesā€ scenario.

However, the alternative happy ending was so rediculous that Iā€™m glad they kept the unhappy ending.

I think my ideal scenario would be that Silence dies, but the bad guys also die. Or the girl lives.

Update:

Call me crazy but I just saw the happy alternative ending again. The more I see it the more I think its not so bad. The metal hand protector was pure genius, and very Spaghetti-like.

If you have the DVD try to watch the alternative ending again and give it a chance. It took me a while to actually appreciate it for what it was. I know Corbucci purposely tried to make it look bad so that the producers would have no other choice but to use the unhappy ending, but I think thats part of the genius of it. Itā€™s actually half decent !

Completely disagree. The ending as it is, in my opinion is essential to the feel of the movie. The alternate ending would have fucked the movieā€™s message as well as itā€™s distinctieve atmosphere in the ass. We even see Silenzio laughing and talking. What a load of crap!