I just picked up the German Blu-ray and was so disappointed with the waxy DNR picture. Until about 30 mins in, I found the 2nd version in the extras…. Which looks WAY better. It saved the Blu-ray for me. Pretty good film too, 6/10 for me.
I wonder what the difference betwen the versions is… need to pop that thing in myself.
It is as trouble_jw wrote:
Main version is heavily filtered (“DNR massacre”) but in the extra section theres is the same film version but not filtered. I think everyone prefers the not filtered version 
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What a weird choice
Surprised this one hasn’t seen a stateside release yet seeing as how it was one of the first SW’s to reach blu-ray in the first place.
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Yes, Grinder exactly.
I can only imagine they thought, with it being an early HD Blu-ray transfer, they would try and make it look “modern”, grain free and sharp. But doing so takes so much away from the film. Some people like that kinda thing. Not me though, give me grain and depth anyway.
There is no difference with the cut/edit between the 2 versions, just the transfer.
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The movie is a lot better than I remembered, upon fresh rewatching. Yes there are some issues, but overall it’s a very solid effort I though
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@Admin
Regarding the German Blu-Ray from X-Rated - Eurocult-Collection #84.
Audio is German, English, Italian (back cover says only German and Italian).
Subtitles is only German, forced when using English or Italian audio (back cover says German AND English subtitles).
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thanks. haven’t even checked the disc myself despite my involvement in the audio commentary 
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Thanks. I was tempted to get this but now I won’t bother.
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Wasn’t that impressed with this, thought it the weakest of the twilight westerns and Fulci’s weakest of 3 westerns. Mainly cos much of it featured an irritating child, dressed like the kid in It Can Be Done…Amigo which at least was a comedy. The ending in which this ten year-old-kid rides off on a miniature pony with Gemma was the low point. I agree that Geoffrey Lewis was the best thing in it but he was written out of the film for about half an hour - his intro scene seemed to be a deliberate homage to the opening scene in And for a Sky A Roof Full O’Stars. No decent villain either with the main villain killed off quite early to be replaced with some ‘comedy’ Mexicans. Ettore Mani has all these old guns laid out on desks in his study but no-one gets to use them except for Gemma using one pistol. Didn’t like the score either. It sort of falls between two stools - too much violence for the kiddies and too much kiddie for the adults.
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Gemmas using of the old pistol seems to me like a Easter egg to “a pistol for Ringo”. That’s nice in a special way.
In my opinion had the Italian-western-Industrie a problem to find a target group in those later years. The Zanna Bianca flicks and their rip-offs had the same problem: to childish for adults and to violent for children.
I don’t know for sure, but I think that all the midnight movies weren’t really successful at their times. And this one seems to be one of the weakest. Some parts are convincing (Snake, action scenes) , but the whole thing is a mixed bag. The theme-song is really awful.
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