Silver Saddle / Sella d’argento (Lucio Fulci, 1978)

So, with that theory, Casablanca is an action film? It leads up to a single shot at the end.

[quote=“korano, post:61, topic:1241”]So, with that theory, Casablanca is an action film? It leads up to a single shot at the end.[/quote] :stuck_out_tongue:

What’s that supposed to mean? A remark to my acknowledged smart assery? ;D

Ha ha, it’s not a rule for everything. It’s only an extreme example.

I’m also not saying that every film in which someone gets shot is an action film. It can, but it must not. Casablanca doesn’t build up to the shot, it builds up to the final dialogue between Bogart and Bergmann (or between Bogey and Rains?). That’s why it’s called a melodrama. :wink:

But e.g. everything in GBU leads to the Triello, which is an action scene, even if not much happens on the shooting side of things.

It seems what I tried to say is too easy to misinterpret. So we better skip it. It wasn’t that important anyway.

Fine by me :slight_smile:

I understand what you were saying though.

Don’t worry about it Stanton

Maybe you could say SWs are ‘physical films’ as opposed to films with only a lot of talking? ;D

Personally when I hear the term ‘action film’ I think of other films than SWs though

Not to confuse things but i’d call westerns in general, visual films

only a tiny bit…

I wouldn’t go that far…

Yea, films are often quite visual… ???

Compared to other media, like, radio or so… :o

You guys don’t get it.

I mean visual as there is something in the western genre that sets it apart from others. The fact that we identify western with the rolling plains, monument valley, sunsets, etc. These are visual aspects that are identifiable to the Western.

Yes, the western is (or should be) a very visual genre. That’s one of the things I like it for. Westerns should show things, not let people talk about things.

[quote=“korano, post:71, topic:1241”]You guys don’t get it.

I mean visual as there is something in the western genre that sets it apart from others. The fact that we identify western with the rolling plains, monument valley, sunsets, etc. These are visual aspects that are identifiable to the Western.[/quote]

So you mean western have a certain visual repertoire. But Other genres have that as well.

All films are visual in the fact you look at them, unless you are bored or blind or something. Some people may like looking at mountains and others a woman making a nice cup of tea. I prefer it when a woman makes a cup of tea by a camp fire with mountains in the background.

A nude woman.

Heehee ;D

@Dillinger:

You really don’t get it!

Let me put it like this. Do you think there is any similarity between, say, The Bourne Identity and GBU? I’m not saying that we just use our eyes to see.

Do you ever seen cowboy hats, poncho’s, horses, saloons, frontiers, deserts, gunfights all together in one genre other than the western? These are visual aspects of the western.

Come on, korano. Everybody here knows what a western is.

What are you really saying? That other films aren’t visual, because they don’t have cowboy hats, poncho’s, horses, saloons, frontiers, deserts and gunfights?

Comedies are visual, action films are visual, pornos are visual, etc.

Do action films have any visual aspects that set them apart? Many genres have explosions. And there is no set rule as to what an action film should look like. Die Hard is in a business office, Mad Max is in Australia, The Getaway is the Tex Mex border. Do these locales have anything in common? Does every action movie have an appearance identical to that of every other action movie? Are they all set in one place? I’m saying Westerns have one distinct place, look, and feel. I could be watching an action movie, set it in the old west and because of that visual element, it would be a Western.

What do you think of when you think of westerns?

But that doesn’t make a western more visual than a John Holmes porn flick.

Different images, sure. But more visual? No.

From the dicitionary:

vis·u·al
/ˈvɪʒuəl/ Show Spelled[vizh-oo-uhl] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
of or pertaining to seeing or sight: a visual image.
2.
used in seeing: the visual sense.
3.
optical.
4.
perceptible by the sense of sight; visible: a visual beauty.
5.
perceptible by the mind; of the nature of a mental vision: a visual impression captured in a line of verse.
–noun
6.
Usually, visuals.
a.
the picture elements, as distinguished from the sound elements, in films, television, etc.
b.
photographs, slides, films, charts, or other visual materials, esp. as used for illustration or promotion. Compare audio, video.
7.
a rough, preliminary sketch of an advertising layout, showing possible arrangements of material.Compare comprehensive (def. 5).
8.
any item or element depending on the sense of sight.