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0 for me, not 1
I ordered the Wild East dvd today. I’m not that big fan of the movie but at least then I can see the Eli Wallach’s interview.
Only a short interview, but worth the purchase.
All quotes are from the Guess a movie screenshot thread (pages 213-214):
Do not know whether you know, but a fair bit of extra footage in the Wild East version compared to the Iver tape.A fair bit, around 17 mins. Complete scenes are missing from the Iver version. Been a while since I viewed to give you the details of the exact missing scenes
But the wild East is a little bit CUT !I haven’t seen the wild east complete, but there at least one short scene missing:
Its as Eli Wallach, and Franco Nero should be hanged. Redgrave wants a photo with Wallach/Nero. Fajardo goes to redgrave, because he wants to be on the photo.
Than is the cut. In the wild east are in the next scene the explosion. But in the German DVD, Redgrave says before the explosion to Fajardo he should smile for the photo. He smile, and than is the explosion. It’s a very short cut, but no jump cut.
Here is the part missing from the Wild East version (the shot is from an Italian TV recording, running time about 112m PAL)
Have you got one without this rope in front of Eli's face?
Unfortunately, the rope is present in all frames.
Thanks for posting that here - I would have missed it otherwise.
WE’s longer cut was improvement, there was some nice scenes I had not seen in my previous vhs-rip. But the extra scenes can’t save the film from being only average. Entertaining but average. I don’t mind comedic action westerns (Companeros is one of my big favorites) but here the comedy goes too much over the top in Trinity style. It’s these silly moments that ruin the film for me, for example the scene where Nero hits one soldier and all the soldiers in the row keep falling like a pieces of dominoes. Or the overlong fistfight with soldiers and Redgrave. Some of the comedy scenes I like, scene with Fajardo and Redgrave in her underwear was quite funny.
But the cast is good and most of the action scenes are well done, especially the big fight in the fiesta.
My rating: 7/10
Yeah… 7/10 sounds about right. Just saw it for the first time and I’ll watch it again at some distant date, but I think the film was too aware of its audience’s tastes (circa 1971). Rather than presenting ‘new’ plot-templates, it served-up familiar readymades. Some of the gunplay at the hanging is illogical because everyone’s at close-quarters, and trained military troops are not going to miss targets 100%. Nero, Wallach, or Redgrave should’ve been nailed. The film’s comedic undercurrent could’ve worked it in.
The film has aged well though, yet shall always remain unsatisfyingly satisfying.
Mercenary meets GBU meets DYS meets Trinity (and there is even Morton) is not embarrassment for nobody involved, but is very inferior to all aforementioned role models (except maybe Trinity).
Out of the Wallach Spaghetti westerns, it’s not as good as Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo or I quattro dell’ave maria, but way better than Il bianco, il giallo, il nero
This was my introduction to Franco Nero, and while he may be doing a retread of previous characters, he’s fine, even if his character can be incredibly cruel. One of my favourite exchanges is between him and a dying man at the beginning.
Orlowsky: I’m a pastor.
Dying man: Go back to your sheep.
Eli Wallach I would endure any movie or TV show for. Again, his character is very Tuco-ish, even more so than Cacopoulos from I quattro, but since I love the character in the first place, I enjoy his performance here. Max is a rowdy, cheeky smartass, and has more of the appearance of a wisecracker than the other two bandido characters. I like his little quirks, like how he can’t swim and how he hates being touched on the ass. Speaking of which, I felt bad for him when he was forced to drop his pants. It’s sexual harassment, and you’re not going to take it, are you, Maxie?
He seems to be part Juan from Giu la testa as well. He’s a loving brother and uncle, another character aspect I love from him. I didn’t like how he got over losing his sister and nephew so quickly, though when he does react, it’s pretty poignant.
His character isn’t the funniest I’ve seen. It’s not even as well developed as Juan or Chuncho. And yet he has a few redeeming qualities that appeal to me.
Lynn Redgrave is awesome in this movie. A perky, fiery, smart Irish reporter who kicks a ton of Zapata ass. I enjoyed her performance immensely.
The film isn’t that great, it goes all over the place, some bits I can’t follow. The comedy is hit and miss. I don’t even know why I like it so much except that Eli’s in it, doing his usual thing.
That so? I suppose Hirthe disappointed this time?
I don’t care much for the voices, but it is terrible comedy dub, which I don’t like in any film. Tolerable in some Spencer/Hill films, but only tolerable.
Somebody sent me a few Klamauk version a while ago, indeed horrible. I had heard a lot about them, but didn’t really know them (only a couple of clips on You Tube and other video sharing sites). In Preparati la bara Hill is repeatedly referring to Spencer (der Dicke) who isn’t even in the movie!
That’s from the 2nd dub, which was a pure comedy dub, which tried to turn the film into a total comedy. And for which some of the violence was cut out.
But the first dub, for the “serious” version, had already a few odd moments of comedy patter.
I still want to hear Martin Hirthe in the German dub. I’ve already heard Lozoya in French and Spanish, so it’s be interesting to compare.
The Spanish dub cut out a couple of scenes I like, both involving Max Lozoya. The first is where he’s being interrogated by Orlowsky in the well, and the second is where he’s vowing revenge for the death of his sister and nephew. Why did they cut those scenes out?
The weird history between this and “What are we doing in the Middle of the Revolution?”, makes you feel like you have to watch one after the other in order to feel completely satisfied. Watching them separately makes you feel like something is missing (either Corbucci or Nero).
Ha, ha…yes know what you mean there !
Nice profile picture.
Calisto Calisti or his Spanish? look-a-like, Adolfo Thous?
Who is Adolfo Thous? Here in Eugenio Martin’s Pancho Villa
Other database notes:
The Yuma prison warden is Mirko Ellis, not José Moreno who is the bespectacled Huerta Captain.I don’t know who Rudy Gaebell is but the only bartender is the cantina proprietor, Furio Meniconi who is not Mendoza. Also spotted, Lorenzo Robledo at the mine, Rafael Albaicin, one of the El Salvador escorts, Vicente Roca selling horses and José Luis Lizalde as the second telegrapher.
Judging from these pictures I think it’s Thous, even though in Pancho Villa the hairline seems different.
I don’t know too, but according to IMDb he plays Lewis in La corrupción de Chris Miller.