Kid Vengeance (Joseph Manduke, 1977)

[quote=ā€œSilence, post:1, topic:1609ā€]I will soon watch this movie, is it a good one? Will There be more info about it in the database?[/quote]Havenā€™t you read ā€œthe worst sw Youā€™ve seenā€-topic?
No, itā€™s not a good one. Definitely one of the worst films of the genre.

Nothing to do with that. I think some VHS company came up with ā€œTake Another Hard Rideā€ title, before that it was just Kid Vengeance. Lee Van Cleef is a bad indian in this one, Leif Garrett of Godā€™s Gun ā€œfameā€ stars. Not a good film but I have seen worse. 2 stars.

Good luck to you :o

I havenā€™t.

Yes, I have read that topic, but I liked the intro sequence so I wanted to give it a go.

Ahh OK. Thats just an alt. title they gave it. Thanks for the info!

Apparantly the selected reviewer on IMDB liked itā€¦

Surprisingly original, almost unknown........., 7 July 2008 Author: merklekranz from United States

Seek this one out if you are looking for a different kind of Lee Van Cleef ā€œspaghetti westernā€. Definitely on a par with his lesser westerns like ā€œDeath Rides a Horseā€, but inferior to ā€œThe Big Gundownā€ā€¦

on par with ā€¦lesserā€¦ westerns like DRAH? WTF is this guy smoking?? Good ole IMDBā€¦

LOL @ lesser westerns like DRAH. Thats why I dont bother with IMDB very often. This site is for the actual aficionados of SWs. IMDB is a bunch of loons.

Kid Vengeance isnā€™t good at all. I bought it on a dollar dvd with Godā€™s Gun. I watched Godā€™s Gun which isnā€™t as bad as everyone says but then I tried to watch Kid Vengeanceā€¦ shortly after I turned if off because it sucked. A few months later I had nothing to watch so I forced myself to watch it. The best part is Lee Van Cleef and thats it. Sorry if you paid more than $1 for it!

Iā€™m a huge LVC fan. Hell, heā€™s the reason why I got interested in SWā€™s in the first place. But I have yet to have the misfortune of seeing this movie and I donā€™t intend to anytime soon.

It is horrible. Interesting Israeli locations are only good factor. Terrible acting all around actually. Poorly made and minor.

I wrote this a while ago for Fistful of Pasta, but it has all been quiet on the pasta front lately, so I could close a gap with the (slightly altered) review:

https://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Kid_Vengeance_Review

When Iā€™m done with all the other spaghettis, Iā€™ll give it a watch.

lee van cleef the bad guy? and the litle kid the avenger??? LOL!!!

As with Godā€™s Gun, Kid Vengeance really isnā€™t all that bad! Itā€™s not going to rival The Good, the Bad & the Ugly for my affections anytime soon, in fact Iā€™m not sure when or if Iā€™ll ever watch it again, but it wasnā€™t White Fang and the Hunter bad. It wasnā€™t Apache Blood bad. It wasnā€™t White Comanche bad (I canā€™t keep using White Comanche as a yardstick for crapness; the more I think of it, the more fond I am of it, in a ā€œbad movieā€ sense, you know?). If theyā€™d gone the Death Rides a Horse route or the Once Upon a Time in the West route or the God-knows-how-many-other-Spag-revenge-tales route and had the wronged kid grow up to be a bad-ass agent of death before extracting his revenge on his parentsā€™ murderers, it would probably have been a fair bit more acceptable. As it is, itā€™s hard to root for a schoolchild. Unless you ARE a schoolchild, I suppose. But if you ARE a schoolkid, Kid Vengeance really shouldnā€™t be the film for you, given that itā€™s actually quite a nasty piece with its murders, rape, and colourful picking-offs of the bad guys. In that sense, Leif Garrett was a little like a juvenile Predator or something. ā€œKid Predator: KREDATOR!ā€ Hang on, ā€œCreditorā€? Not much of a title. Oh well. So Iā€™m not sure who the movie was really aimed at. Leif Garrettā€™s no Clint Eastwood, no Tomas Milian, no Gianni Garko. But anyone who would see him that way would be too young for the film. Bah, whatever. It wasnā€™t that bad, that much I DO know. I mean it WAS pretty rubbish, but nowhere near as bad as I was steeling myself for. And Lee Van Cleefā€™s hair didnā€™t quite go to Godā€™s Gun levels on the LVC MadHair-O-Meter. Close but no cigar, as they say.

Itā€™s not easy to determine whether Kid Vengeance actually qualifies as a Spaghetti Western ā€¦
ā€¢ No, there wasnā€™t any Italian involvement production-wise: IMDb, German and Italian Wikipedia, TCM, BFI.
ā€¢ Yes, there was: SWDb, English Wikipedia, Kevin Grant (p. 467).
The fact that the film doesnā€™t have an entry in ANICAā€™s Archive of Italian Cinema might be a crucial indicator. But the information on ANICAā€™s website is of course anything but reliable.

They have Red Sun under the US flag!

For Giustiā€™s dictionary this is a USA/Israel/Italy co-production, in any case we are talking about a really minor participation with music by Francesco De Masi and Pier Vittorio Marchi as Art Director.

http://www.cinematografo.it/cinedatabase/cast/pier-vittorio-marchi/77259/

If Release Info on IMDb is correct (see below), it is interesting to note that the movie was submitted to Italian censorship a lot sooner and authorized for public showing at the end of October 1976 with VM14 rating.

So, whatā€™s your opinion? Since no Italian production company was involved, shouldnā€™t it be listed in the database as an American-Israeli Western and on the forum be moved to the Western board? By the way, it can be watched on YouTube.

Strictly speaking the movie isnā€™t a SW: what I meant to say is that maybe having been released ten months earlier than in the USA in terms of target market there was a particular focus on Italy.

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