James Bond

Bad Lieutenant I think you would like “Funeral In Berlin” the story unfolds quite slowly but it is totally gripping with great atmosphere. I really like “Billion Dollar Brain” too even though it does veer off into the realms of fantasy. The later Harry Palmer films (made for TV) “Bullet to Beijing” and “Midnight in St. Petersburg” are nowhere near as good, I don’t even think they’re available on DVD.

Valenciano have you seen Daniel Craig in “The Mother” :wink: :wink: :wink:

Valenciano have you seen Daniel Craig in “The Mother”

No I haven´t, but on the layer cake dvd(i ordered the triple with snatch and lock stock and two barrels, nice box!) is an interview where he talks about his older roles, being more emotional. Since i haven´t seen any of those I was never that anti craig when it comes to him playing bond. i just never saw him before. Layer cake is also full of action and it fits. But if its a chick flic why did you see it? :wink:

I only watch movies with “tits and guns” 8)

[quote=“The Halitosis Kid, post:21, topic:544”]Bad Lieutenant I think you would like “Funeral In Berlin” the story unfolds quite slowly but it is totally gripping with great atmosphere. I really like “Billion Dollar Brain” too even though it does veer off into the realms of fantasy. The later Harry Palmer films (made for TV) “Bullet to Beijing” and “Midnight in St. Petersburg” are nowhere near as good, I don’t even think they’re available on DVD.

Valenciano have you seen Daniel Craig in “The Mother” :wink: :wink: ;)[/quote]

“The Ipcress File” is by far the best of the Harry Palmer films in my opinion this film is a true classic, “Funeral In Berlin” is also very good.
“Billion Dollar Brain” is ridiculous though and was the reason why only 3 films where made, Michael Caine had signed a contract for 5 films but after “Billion Dollar Brain” he did not want to play Harry Palmer again and was released from his contract and the series ended.

Long after in 1995 two subsequent Harry Palmer films where made, “Bullet to Beijing” and “Midnight in St. Petersburg” they are both decent films that are vorth a watch even though they can not compete with the two first films. By the way they are out on dvd I have them myself.
When the talk is on Michael Caine I would like to say that the best film he made and one of the best films of the seventies is “Get Carter”

But if its a chick flic why did you see it?
Well check out this link [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0323298/[/url] you're obviously a man of taste and refinement ;)
When the talk is on Michael Caine I would like to say that the best film he made and one of the best films of the seventies is "Get Carter"
"Get Carter" is a very powerful film, Michael Caine is outstanding in that role. Regarding Harry Palmer Films I prefer "Funeral In Berlin" over "The Ipcress File" and then "Billion Dollar Brain" third, it's that long since I saw "Bullet to Beijing" and "Midnight in St. Petersburg" I can't remember much about them.

I think a few of the old Bonds from the 60s are fun to watch sometimes, just for entertainment.

Most of the others are pretty silly and boring in my opinion.

But it’s quite amazing that this series has lasted all these years, one can only wonder why.

But Bond is probably such a well established action/adventure movie-hero that audiences always has an interest and curiosity when a new film premieres.

I haven’t seen the new one yet, but I’ve heard it has more depth and seriousness than usual.

i think thats just because they took a script from Ian Fleming - any Bond that has a script which is near to the Book of Ian Flemming is good.But thats just my opinion…

Yes, the ones that are based on Fleming novels are my favorites. I thought “Goldeneye” was okay, too but that last one with Brosnan…“Die Another Day” was absolutely terrible. I think it is the only Bond film that I downright hate.

i thought it was a load of shit aswell,definately the worst one closely followed by A view to a kill

I actually liked a view to a kill:P But i think Moore’s Bond movies are stupid comedy movies compared to those with Connery. I don’t like Bonds with Brosnan, they are more like some hollywood action movies

I like A VIEW TO A KILL aswell.

Of course Roger Moore is not the best actor on the planet, but the guy is so laid back, I cannot help but like the guy!

Life and people are so serious at times, so it is nice to watch somebody who does not take him self so seriously.

Moore I think really enjoyed playing Bond in his heyday, and I think this really shows.

The other Bonds perhaps may be better, but way to serious for this kind of film.

i still like Aview to a kill but i like all the others more apart from the last Brosnan one.

WARNING:
i have just found out that the region 1 release of Casino Royale is cut, the region 2 & 3 versions are longer

The James Bond films, ahh, well they were part of my youth, but that’s quite a while ago.

The first one was The Spy Who Loved Me in the year of its release, and it was for us one of the movie highlights of our childhood. A great film then with plenty of surprising and well made action scenes, with a (still) beautiful woman, with a fashionable dream car, with an incredible killer called Jaws (which was funny and frightening at the same time), and all served with lots irony and inside jokes. Great, great fun.

A year later my 007 affection started when the cinemas where flooded with re-releases of all the older Bonds, but in my small home town only 4 of them were shown. I liked them all, even if I needed a few weeks to accept that the 60s Bonds weren’t as funny as Live and Let Die and TSWLM, which remained the best on the bondometer . I also saw On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, From Russia With Love and Thunderball, which are by coincidence still the best of the Connery Bonds.

But over the next years all the other missing Bond films followed. A year later in 1979 Moonraker wasn’t able to stand the high expectations, as it was obviously one of those Bonds which followed the 007 formula too mechanical, which lacked the spirited fun of LaLD and TSWLM.

3 years is a long time when you are young, and a short time in retrospect, but when the next new Bond arrived in the cinemas, it was For Your Eyes Only in 1981, my interest was definitely faded. I was now something like a cineast and the Bonds weren’t good enough for me anymore, the fascination was gone, and we watched them only with a feeling of nostalgia. They weren’t boring, but the cliches were an obvious annoyance then.

With nostalgia in mind and the resignation of keeping bad habits, I somehow managed it to watch them all in cinema bare one (Die Another Day). Some were boring (A View to a Kill, Tomorrow Never Dies) but most were (on a modest level) fun enough to view them without regretting the invested time. License to kill and GoldenEye were the best of the later bunch.

Casino Royale was even better and Quantum of Solace is for the moment the best of them all, a surprisingly modern variation of the out-wringed formula, full of visual beauty never seen before in the long, long ongoing series. But it seems the hardcore fans, who were pleased with CR are a bit disappointed of QoS. I fear the next Bond will return to a more safely traditional style.

This pretty much sums up my Bond experience too although I started a little earlier (You Only Live Twice was the first I saw in the cinema as a new release) and I stopped going to the movies to see them a little earlier too. In fact quite a lot earlier. I liked the early Roger Moore efforts but quickly tired of them as they became increasingly silly and Moore became increasingly unbelievable as an action hero. After that I watched them only on TV and video. Wasn’t too keen on Timothy Dalton, thought Pierce Brosnan was fine and believe that Daniel Craig has taken the franchise in an entertaining new direction. I still haven’t seen the latest one (Quantam of Solace) but liked Casino Royale enough to be know I will seek it out some time soonish.

As a child of the sixties Connery will still be my favourite Bond of course and I think From Russia With Love is still my favourite film of them all. Not sure why, it just has always appealed to me.

What really surprises me though is how an entire genre (Spy films) seems to have been surrendered to one franchise for so long. I can’t think of any other similar area where the industry has just held up its hands and said “it’s all yours”. Usually, a successful film (or series of films) would result in constant copies. I know this did happen in the early days and I suppose the Bourne films are somewhat of a similar vein more recently, but for the most part Bond is it. I certainly would have expected an American equivalent to have been developed at least.

The inflation adjusted box-office results in mio of $:

1962 Dr. No 389,6
1963 From Russia with Love 510,6
1964 Goldfinger 798
1965 Thunderball 890,5
1967 You Only Live Twice 673,2
1969 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service 362,7
1971 Diamonds Are Forever 584,1

1973 Live and Let Die 590,7
1974 The Man with the Golden Gun 428,6
1977 The Spy Who Loved Me 636,8
1979 Moonraker 629,4
1981 For Your Eyes Only 443,7
1983 Octopussy 393
1983 Never Say Never Again 277,5
1985 A View to a Kill 292,2

1987 The Living Daylights 340,8
1989 Licence to Kill 258,2

1995 GoldenEye 460,2
1997 Tomorrow Never Dies 422,8
1999 The World Is Not Enough 433,7
2002 Die Another Day 476,7

2006 Casino Royale 594,2
2008 Quantum of Solace (530)

QoS is still in the cinemas and not inflation adjusted.

The german number of spectators in mio:

1962 Dr. No 8
1963 From Russia with Love 8
1964 Goldfinger 11
1965 Thunderball 12
1967 You Only Live Twice 9
1969 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service 4
1971 Diamonds Are Forever 5,5
1973 Live and Let Die 6
1974 The Man with the Golden Gun 4,5
1977 The Spy Who Loved Me 7,2
1979 Moonraker 5,3
1981 For Your Eyes Only 4,82
1983 Octopussy 4,32
1983 Never Say Never Again 3,58
1985 A View to a Kill 3,37
1987 The Living Daylights 3,11
1989 Licence to Kill 2,47
1995 GoldenEye 5,50
1997 Tomorrow Never Dies 4,48
1999 The World Is Not Enough 5,07
2002 Die Another Day 4,94
2006 Casino Royale 5,46
2008 Quantum of Solace (4,62)

Up to Moonraker the numbers are only estimated.

my favorite connery bond film was goldfinger, the moore favourite was the spy who loved me, favourite dalton one was licence to kill, favourite brosnan one was the world is not enough, and quantom of solace for daniel craig which i was pleasantly surprised with. most underrated one in my opinon is on her majestys secret service.i am not a big fan although one of my brothers is an absolute bond nut. my least favourite bond film strangely enough is the first dr no, i hated it . i think because it was built up so much that when i saw it i was so disapointed. ::slight_smile:

The first Bond I saw in cinema was, oddly enough, Casino Royale … but not the Craig movie, but the one with a multitude of Bonds. It was awful (and not a real Bond of course), but shortly after I saw On her Majesty’s Secret Service, which made up for it. I remember it was pulvarized by critics, mainly because of Lazenby, but I thought everything in it was huge and wonderful: the stunts, the locations, the women … I still had a boy’s crush on Emma Peel by the way … Later it was called by some one of the very best Bonds instead, but when I rewatched it some time ago, I noticed I did no longer like it: a lot of stunts were fake, Lazenby was awful, Savalas was awful, and the women … well, Diana was sexier in The Avengers and some Bonds had better girls

I only saw Live and Let Die in cinema afterwards, the rest I watched on VHS and DVD (and A View to Kill on a plane)

Like Man with a Name I didn’t really like Dr. No, it doesn’t have the real Bond feel. The same goes, as far as I’m concerned, for From Russia with Love. I know to many this is one of the great Bonds, but I never could understand why. To me the series really picked up with Goldfinger and You only live twice. Bond movies are about style and atmosphere, watching a Bond movie puts me in a kind of mood, an inner voice is saying: this is it, you’re a boy and you’re having a good time. These two movies touched the right chord. Although films like Thunderball, Diamonds are forever, The Spy who loved me and For your eyes only are largely okay, it took quite some time before Bond put me in the mood again, but Timothy Dalton finally did it. It had something to do with the movies, they were far meaner than the Moores, but also with Dalton: he has this determined look, a sort of repressed anger, that I identify with the character, maybe because I read most of the novels too: in Fleming’s books, 007 is a bit of a cruel, nasty person, a womanizing sunnovabitch who cares about himself and little else (A self-obsessed boy, so to speak). To me Dalton and Connery seem to transmit that idea best, and Dalton maybe even a bit better than Connery.

The Brosnan movies didn’t impress me, although most of them offered okay lite entertainment. I liked the one with Femke best, but For Femke’s Thighs only.

And then there was Daniel. Casino Royale touched the right chord once again. This felt good, this was Bond, I was a boy again. Go get them James (the women as well as the villauins) !

For Her Thighs Only

Good title, but I think I missed that one :wink:

[quote=“scherpschutter, post:38, topic:544”]The first Bond I saw in cinema was, oddly enough, Casino Royale … but not the Craig movie, but the one with a multitude of Bonds. It was awful (and not a real Bond of course), but shortly after I saw On her Majesty’s Secret Service, which made up for it. I remember it was pulvarized by critics, mainly because of Lazenby, but I thought everything in it was huge and wonderful: the stunts, the locations, the women … I still had a boy’s crush on Emma Peel by the way … Later it was called by some one of the very best Bonds instead, but when I rewatched it some time ago, I noticed I did no longer like it: a lot of stunts were fake, Lazenby was awful, Savalas was awful, and the women … well, Diana was sexier in The Avengers and some Bonds had better girls

I only saw Live and Let Die in cinema afterwards, the rest I watched on VHS and DVD (and A View to Kill on a plane)

Like Man with a Name I didn’t really like Dr. No, it doesn’t have the real Bond feel. The same goes, as far as I’m concerned, for From Russia with Love. I know to many this is one of the great Bonds, but I never could understand why. To me the series really picked up with Goldfinger and You only live twice. Bond movies are about style and atmosphere, watching a Bond movie puts me in a kind of mood, an inner voice is saying: this is it, you’re a boy and you’re having a good time. These two movies touched the right chord. Although films like Thunderball, Diamonds are forever, The Spy who loved me and For your eyes only are largely okay, it took quite some time before Bond put me in the mood again, but Timothy Dalton finally did it. It had something to do with the movies, they were far meaner than the Moores, but also with Dalton: he has this determined look, a sort of repressed anger, that I identify with the character, maybe because I read most of the novels too: in Fleming’s books, 007 is a bit of a cruel, nasty person, a womanizing sunnovabitch who cares about himself and little else (A self-obsessed boy, so to speak). To me Dalton and Connery seem to transmit that idea best, and Dalton maybe even a bit better than Connery.

The Brosnan movies didn’t impress me, although most of them offered okay lite entertainment. I liked the one with Femke best, but For Femke’s Thighs only.

And then there was Daniel. Casino Royale touched the right chord once again. This felt good, this was Bond, I was a boy again. Go get them James (the women as well as the villauins) ![/quote][quote=“scherpschutter, post:38, topic:544”]The first Bond I saw in cinema was, oddly enough, Casino Royale … but not the Craig movie, but the one with a multitude of Bonds. It was awful (and not a real Bond of course), but shortly after I saw On her Majesty’s Secret Service, which made up for it. I remember it was pulvarized by critics, mainly because of Lazenby, but I thought everything in it was huge and wonderful: the stunts, the locations, the women … I still had a boy’s crush on Emma Peel by the way … Later it was called by some one of the very best Bonds instead, but when I rewatched it some time ago, I noticed I did no longer like it: a lot of stunts were fake, Lazenby was awful, Savalas was awful, and the women … well, Diana was sexier in The Avengers and some Bonds had better girls

I only saw Live and Let Die in cinema afterwards, the rest I watched on VHS and DVD (and A View to Kill on a plane)

Like Man with a Name I didn’t really like Dr. No, it doesn’t have the real Bond feel. The same goes, as far as I’m concerned, for From Russia with Love. I know to many this is one of the great Bonds, but I never could understand why. To me the series really picked up with Goldfinger and You only live twice. Bond movies are about style and atmosphere, watching a Bond movie puts me in a kind of mood, an inner voice is saying: this is it, you’re a boy and you’re having a good time. These two movies touched the right chord. Although films like Thunderball, Diamonds are forever, The Spy who loved me and For your eyes only are largely okay, it took quite some time before Bond put me in the mood again, but Timothy Dalton finally did it. It had something to do with the movies, they were far meaner than the Moores, but also with Dalton: he has this determined look, a sort of repressed anger, that I identify with the character, maybe because I read most of the novels too: in Fleming’s books, 007 is a bit of a cruel, nasty person, a womanizing sunnovabitch who cares about himself and little else (A self-obsessed boy, so to speak). To me Dalton and Connery seem to transmit that idea best, and Dalton maybe even a bit better than Connery.

The Brosnan movies didn’t impress me, although most of them offered okay lite entertainment. I liked the one with Femke best, but For Femke’s Thighs only.

And then there was Daniel. Casino Royale touched the right chord once again. This felt good, this was Bond, I was a boy again. Go get them James (the women as well as the villauins) ![/quote]i agree with a lot of what you say here scherp, apart from from russia with love which i thought was a much better effort than the first. i never took to the brosnan films particularly nor the roger moore ones ( he has the most of the lesser efforts eg moonraker, man with the golden gun)and yes OHMSS does look fake in a lot of it’s action scenes today but still think it’s a decent effort and the music is among the best.with the appointment of daniel craig i thought it might be the beginning of the end for the franchise but he has given it a new lease of life, despite not being anyone’s idea of what james bond would look like.