If You Meet Sartana, Pray for Your Death / Se incontri Sartana, prega per la tua morte (Gianfranco Parolini, 1968)


(Reverend Danite) #41

Indeed I will Brother Scherpschutter - and thankfully we don’t have to include the Requiescant (1967).
Absit invidia amigo


(Garko Forever) #42

Love this movie! It’s no great work of art, and by no means one of the best SW flicks, but I find all of the Garko Sartana movies to be great repeat-viewing fun. I like this series better than the Sabata series and part of the reason is how bizarre and impenetrable the plotting can be - just relax and go with the flow. It’ll all be worked out in the end… sorta (well, as long as you don’t think about it all too hard!).


(Hud) #43

[quote=“Blacksheepboy, post:37, topic:188”]The SW in the 1970’s is a closing genre.
Nothing new in terms of style or storytelling, but quite a few different addings, like Keoma’s score pointing out aspects of the plot and Mannaja’s blade as his trademark weapon.[/quote]
Seems like a mantra of this board to go on complaining about the 1970s spaghetti westerns, their “tiredness” and lack of new ideas or maybe lack of tradition, this comes up in so many threads. I understand the sentiment and could join in, I’ve just got way too many 70s favorites, some serious and some comic… Few of them are five star masterpieces but still the decade gave us many enjoyable movies and great scenes in lesser ones, also much fun oddball stuff too personal to be considered run of the mill.

Among shameless hacks there were skilled low-budget filmmakers like Carnimeo turning out stylish and smart action westerns at incredible speed, and talented newcomers like Giancarlo Santi who just joined the game too late. Like it or hate it but Brothers Blue really attempted to bring something new to the genre before sliding into obscurity. So much more was going than Trinity, Keoma and their clones. Maybe the audience and critics didn’t notice but that’s not unusual with our genre of forgotten pistoleros…


(Gary Hudson) #44

I finally watched my first Sartana and was really disappointed. The only good thing about this movie was the cast, but the story and the music sucked big time. If I don’t like the “highest rated” Sartana, should I give the others a try.


(YourPallbearer) #45

I thought the same after watching it the first time. Multiple viewings helps as does multiple views of “Return of Sabata” (another difficult to follow movie).
The other Sartana’s have convoluted storylines but they aren’t difficult to follow if you’re paying attention.


(YourPallbearer) #46

I believe you should seeing as the sequels are a different experience from this darker, and sometimes dreary, picture.
The sequels are more fun and light hearted and the action arrives more quickly.
Plus the plots are easier to understand.


(alk0) #47

You should, i liked “I am Sartana your angel of death” much more than the first Sartana movie.


(CactusCharlie) #48

One of my favourite SW’s (it’s in my Top 20 SW’s). I love the violence in this.

Great cast : Garko, Berger and Kinski , although there’s not enough of Herr Kinski.


(Lasky) #49

For me definite top 10 non-Leone sw. The Sartana character is a truly an iconic sw anti-hero who i rate
alongside MWNN and Django.The “i am your Pallbearer” introduction is arguably the best entrance out of all
sw’s.

BTW contary to some of the opinions i’ve read on this thread,i’d suggest SARTANA is very original though like any other post FISTFUL OF DOLLARs there are obvious points of reference like the fact that it borrows the plot device (from AFOD)of a stranger getting in between two rival gangs,but then so does DJANGO and no-one would claim that movie is unoriginal.I can’t think of another sw before this that uniquely blends in this spectral almost supernatural figure with the Bond series and sw plots were never that complicated before with double crosses being taken to the extreme.The film is undoubtably very hard to follow but so is ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA and no-one would suggest that this is a mess.Like Leone’s gangster classic i found that SARATNA grew on me with every viewing and it became a challenge to figure out every nuance in the plot.In fact we dedicated a whole thread on another forum to reconstruct and unravel the plot.The plot synopsis on the Wildeast sleevenotes was i suspect written by Thomas Weisser because its sooooo inaccurate. ;D

There is undoubtable a cheap look about SARTANA but i don’t think this harms particularly because this is more than made up for with a superb horror influenced atmosphere and superb organ based bluesy musical score.The cast is absolutely top notch with Fernando Sancho and William Berger easily providing Sartana’s most effective nemesis’s.In fact as much as i love Carmineo’s follow-ups i see them as a dilution of Parolini’s original vision with all the added goofiness and they lack the mystique of the original.Not for nothing does Garko himself rate this as his favourite western. :wink:

BTW i love the excessive lengths of the SARTANA titles ,a similar trend that was adopted by the likes of Argento and Fullci with the giallo’s that they made.


(Reverend Danite) #50

A general rule with SWs tho’ is … the better, and longer, the title - the worse the film. Fidani rules!!
I am gonna watch these Sartana films again tho’ - with an open mind - and an open can of scrumpy ;D :stuck_out_tongue:


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #51

Yes Lasky, I believe the thread you are refering to is here:

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=2001.0

Its actualy quite useful and quite a few differing opinions. But I think understand everything now.


(Lasky) #52

[quote=“Col. Douglas Mortimer, post:51, topic:188”]Yes Lasky, I believe the thread you are refering to is here:

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=2001.0

Its actualy quite useful and quite a few differing opinions. But I think understand everything now.[/quote]

Though i believe we came to a general agreement in the end,the main bone of contention being Lasky’s
dying utterance to Sartana “you are the g…” which we concluded to be gravedigger rather than ghost.

Reverend Danite ,both Leone’s most celebrated westerns both have titles that rival the Sartana series in length. :wink:


(YourPallbearer) #53

[quote=“Col. Douglas Mortimer, post:51, topic:188”]Yes Lasky, I believe the thread you are refering to is here:

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=2001.0[/quote]

Yes, I’m afraid I wasn’t so helpful in that thread. ;D

Who are you on the Leone board MORTIMER?


(Bill san Antonio) #54

I wonder if I am the only one who thinks that this is the worst of the Sartana series? I enjoy all the Carnimeo films which are good combination of action, strange characters and all the fun stuff. Basically the first one is made of similar stuff (and it has best cast of serie) but somehow it leaves me cold. Something about Parolini’s directing I guess, I can’t really put my finger on it.


(YourPallbearer) #55

I’m in agreement but I find it better than the Hilton one.

Yes, something about this one leaves me feeling like something was missing.
Perhaps it is the fun factor of the sequels that keep those chugging along while this one feels kinda dreary in spots.
I still like it though and fits easily in my top 50.


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #56

[quote=“YourPallbearer, post:53, topic:188”]Yes, I’m afraid I wasn’t so helpful in that thread. ;D

Who are you on the Leone board MORTIMER?[/quote]

I am not a part of that forum, but I did read that particular thread and I like to thank the guys for “clearing the air”, as regards to the confusing plot.

I wish a similar thread could be done for Angel of death/Gravedigger, which I also found rather confusing.


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #57

You are not alone. I think there are generally two schools of thought. On one hand people like the Carnimeo sequels because they are fun and lighthearted, while on the other hand some prefer the original because it was more serious in tone.


(Romaine Fielding) #58

Very good point Col.
I am in the second school of thought. I like the first Sartana (even though I am not a fan of Parolini’s circus-style action in his subsequent films). I really like Garko but find the Carmineo films just a little too jokey and certainly confusing.
This is a conundrum. Very often, highly violent spaghettis have silly, jokey moments. It is an odd juxtoposition. I usually prefer to seperate the two. Since most of the Sartana films blend seriousness and sillness, I am only a marginal fan.
But…I love His Name Is Holy Ghost. And it, too, mixes violence and levity. Go figure. :-\


(YourPallbearer) #59

It is all pretty easy to follow until the scene with Garko and Wolf in the cemetery where Sartana is explaining to Buddy Ben what he has uncovered so far in his investigation.

Basically what I get is the Bank president was the ringleader of the heist all along and the Sheriff of the gambeling town was the guy posing as Sartana.
Gordon Mitchell’s character had nothing to do with the heist and is only hunting down Sartana for the reward money.


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #60

[quote=“YourPallbearer, post:59, topic:188”]It is all pretty easy to follow until the scene with Garko and Wolf in the cemetery where Sartana is explaining to Buddy Ben what he has uncovered so far in his investigation.

Basically what I get is the Bank president was the ringleader of the heist all along and the Sheriff of the gambeling town was the guy posing as Sartana.
Gordon Mitchell’s character had nothing to do with the heist and is only hunting down Sartana for the reward money.[/quote]

I understood the overall story and motivations, but there were certain scenes that had me scratching my head. I haven’t seen the film in quite a while so forgive my lack of detail but examples are why Buddy Ben’s character pretended to kill Sartana, and why did Sartana and Buddy Ben induce that guy to yell as loud as he can?