For the benefit of UK members Iāll post this info I just received from a friend :- āpicked up a pile of dvds on the Hard Gore label from the pound shop, the best of which is probably Umberto Lenzis 70s cannibal film Deep River Savages, watched it yesterday, great widescreen printā. At Ā£1 each Iāll try and get hold of these myself and post more info here. Anyone else spotted them?
Not spotted them before, but thanks for the info. Have to go into town this week and we have two pound shops there! Might find something good in them for once. One thingā¦wonāt Deep River Savages be cut though?
Yes someone has posted on amazon.co.uk that the HARD GORE disc is cut by 3+ minutes!!! but Iām interested in checking out Italian horror films so will buy it anyway. Also āNightmares Come At Night might also be of interest as its Jess Franco!ā
Well, i suppose for a pound a time, you really canāt go wrong! And youāll discover if youāre interested enough to then buy more expensive discs. Iāll look out for that Jess Franco one too as i havenāt really seen much of his stuff. (Oh and re the Deep River Savages cuts, i believe a lot of them were to do with actual cruelty to animals, so perhaps itās not a bad thingā¦)
Franco is not for everyone. I love the guy but loads of people hate him, so you are warned. Interesting to hear about Deep River Savages. I hear that the US disc (under the title Man From Deep River) is uncut. I have it and it does look uncut but who knowsā¦
Thanks for the tip! I just won one on ebay for GBP 0.01 (shipping costs GBP 3.00)
Yes, iāve noticed before that he seems to provoke quite extreme opinions one way or the other! Iāve (as far as i know) only seen two of his films (Necronomicon and Venus In Furs), and i did enjoy them. Iād like to have a look at Besame Monstruo, Sadisterotica, and Eugenieā¦The Story of her Journey into Perversity at some point. (Donāt suupose theyāll have THEM in the Ā£1 shop!).
Back on the subject of Deep River Savages, i believe the US version is uncut, and (has the original title). Here in the UK, it was one of the films that found itself on the ānastiesā list, and of course the censors here are very strict about scenes of cruelty (real) to animals. The book See No Evil lists most of these scenes and they do sound fairly offputting!).
Yes. Unfortunately, that seems to be par for the course for the genre. Lenzi started the whole cycle with this film so, yes, there are some pretty disturbing animal mutilations in the film, although nothing as horrible as that alligator cut open while it was still alive inā¦wait, what film is that from? I think itās Jungle Holocaust. Hmmā¦
Well, this book of mine lists the following from Deep River Savages;
an alligator has a knife pushed through itās head and is then skinned alive
a mongoose and cobra are forced to fight to the death
a live monkey has the top of itās skull cut off, and
a goat has itās throat sliced clean openā¦
sound familiar?
Actually i do remember reading an interview with Ivan Rassimov somewhere, and he said he found it all rather disturbing, but that one other guy was so freaked out by what heād seen that he just took off running into the jungle and someone had to be sent to find him!
[quote=āSilver, post:30, topic:405ā]Well, this book of mine lists the following from Deep River Savages;
an alligator has a knife pushed through itās head and is then skinned alive
a mongoose and cobra are forced to fight to the death
a live monkey has the top of itās skull cut off, and
a goat has itās throat sliced clean openā¦
sound familiar?
Actually i do remember reading an interview with Ivan Rassimov somewhere, and he said he found it all rather disturbing, but that one other guy was so freaked out by what heād seen that he just took off running into the jungle and someone had to be sent to find him![/quote]
Oh, yes, youāre right! One of the other aspects of these cannibal films is the re-used footage! The horrifying alligator death was shot for Man from Deep River but re-used in at least one other film (and I think it was Deodatoās Jungle Holocaust.) And, in Lenziās Eaten Alive, a whole scene is lifted straight from Jungle Holocaust!
Speaking of actorās being disturbed by the animal murders on set, John Morgan (Giovanni Lombardo Radice) refused to kill a pig on the set of Make Them Die Slowly (aka Cannibal Ferox) even though Lenzi was insisting that he do so! No wonder Johnās character gets his dick cut off in the filmā¦
[quote=āflynnparadox, post:31, topic:405ā]Oh, yes, youāre right! One of the other aspects of these cannibal films is the re-used footage! The horrifying alligator death was shot for Man from Deep River but re-used in at least one other film (and I think it was Deodatoās Jungle Holocaust.) And, in Lenziās Eaten Alive, a whole scene is lifted straight from Jungle Holocaust!
Speaking of actorās being disturbed by the animal murders on set, John Morgan (Giovanni Lombardo Radice) refused to kill a pig on the set of Make Them Die Slowly (aka Cannibal Ferox) even though Lenzi was insisting that he do so! No wonder Johnās character gets his dick cut off in the filmā¦[/quote]
Well, you have to admire him for sticking with his principals. Talking of the same actor, i have read a few very funny interviews with him over the years. He said in one, that the screams are real in Make Them Die Slowly because the adhesive used to attach the prosthetic āappendageā was pretty strong, so when it was ripped away from his body, most of his hair went with itā¦ :o That poor guy certainly died a lot of horrible deaths in various films didnāt he! He also contributes quite a bit the the book āEaten Alive; Italian Cannibal and Zombie Moviesā, with some amusing and enlightening interviews and reviews. You kinda get the feeling heās not too keen on many of the films. In fact his review of Last Cannibal World actually starts āOh my God, what a piece of shit!ā 
[quote=āSilver, post:28, topic:405ā]Yes, iāve noticed before that he seems to provoke quite extreme opinions one way or the other! Iāve (as far as i know) only seen two of his films (Necronomicon and Venus In Furs), and i did enjoy them. Iād like to have a look at Besame Monstruo, Sadisterotica, and Eugenieā¦The Story of her Journey into Perversity at some point. (Donāt suupose theyāll have THEM in the Ā£1 shop!).[/quote]Check also our Jess Franco topic for more recommendations!
http://www.spaghetti-western.net/forum/index.php/topic,650.0.html
[quote=āBill san Antonio, post:33, topic:405ā]Check also our Jess Franco topic for more recommendations!
http://www.spaghetti-western.net/forum/index.php/topic,650.0.html[/quote]
Thanksā¦been checing it out, so any further questions will go there! Also dug out an old book of mine with a chapter devoted to himā¦ Immoral Tales; Sex And Horror Cinema In Europe 1956 - 1984 (iād forgotten what a great book this isā¦).
Yeah, Giovanni is a hoot. Seems like a real nice, down-to-earth guy. Heās on the commentary track for Cannibal Ferox (Make Them Die Slowly) and he begins the track thusly: āAh, what can I say about Cannibal Ferox? I hate it.ā
Oh, and Immoral Tales is a great book!
[quote=āflynnparadox, post:35, topic:405ā]Yeah, Giovanni is a hoot. Seems like a real nice, down-to-earth guy. Heās on the commentary track for Cannibal Ferox (Make Them Die Slowly) and he begins the track thusly: "Ah, what can I say about Cannibal Ferox? I hate it."
Oh, and Immoral Tales is a great book![/quote]
Hahaā¦i got the impression that Cannibal Ferox didnāt do much for him from that book, or horror films in general ā¦
Talking of other books, ever read Video Trash and Treasures? Very funny and useful little book.
[quote=āSilver, post:36, topic:405ā]Hahaā¦i got the impression that Cannibal Ferox didnāt do much for him from that book, or horror films in general ā¦
Talking of other books, ever read Video Trash and Treasures? Very funny and useful little book.[/quote]
No, I donāt have that one. Iāll have to keep an eye out for itā¦
Iām not a major Horror buff but I know a lot of you guys are so thought Iād post this link for a deal I saw going at Deepdiscount.
Buy 2 get 1 free on Anchor Bay Horor DVDs.
Deepdiscountās prices are usually pretty good anyway so if you are into this stuff itās a an extra good deal.
Beware of customs though. Deepdiscount writes the exact value (or at least thatās what theyāve done when Iāve ordered from them) on the package and there is (at least in Denmark) a high chance of them being picked up in customs and made a lot of hell more expensive.
But yes itās a good offer. Would very much like the two Bava box sets but nothing else really.
[quote=āAvatarDK, post:39, topic:405ā]Beware of customs though. Deepdiscount writes the exact value (or at least thatās what theyāve done when Iāve ordered from them) on the package and there is (at least in Denmark) a high chance of them being picked up in customs and made a lot of hell more expensive.
But yes itās a good offer. Would very much like the two Bava box sets but nothing else really.[/quote]
Yes do be careful of customs. I have been stung before.