[quote=“Richard–W, post:13, topic:2760”]There is no analogy to Xaviera Hollander.
I was just pointing out where Peckinpah was coming from so that you wouldn’t think he was coming from nowhere.
Peckinpah knew what he was doing.
His films were emotionally authentic to the time and place, but his talent was not limited to his cultural roots.
His accomplishments as a director and a storyteller are unassailable.
His westerns remain vital, relevant, individual, highly original masterpieces.
Very few film directors have roots in the American west. I don’t insist that they do. But those who do are as legitimate as those who don’t. Those who do were less pre-occupied with mythology and more pre-occupied with dramatizing how people actually lived. William S. Hart’s films, for example, straddle both worlds. I find both approaches satisfying, and both approaches have resulted in significant films, some of which are made across the pond.
I don’t want to see the “roots discussion” used to marginalize the accomplishments of those who have the roots and who worked from the roots so that those who don’t are somehow exalted because they’re someone’s favorite. Sergio Leone did not have roots, but he did have empathy, and I have the highest regard for his films, especially Once Upon a Time in the West, which I have expressed many times here and elsewhere, but to say Sam Peckinpah is not the league of Ford or Leone is patently ridiculous.
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If those who do are as ligitimate as those who don’t, those who don’t are as ligitimate as those who do
And that was the point I made: authenticity as such is not an argument.
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But why would this be ridiculous, Richard? You have of course the right to disagree with me, but you don’t give any valuable argument why your personal view would be more reasonable than mine. I agree with you that his westerns were ‘vital, relevant, individual and highly original’, I like Peckinpah a lot, but I just don’t think his westerns are as good as the best works of some other western directors. To me Leone and Ford are in the same league as Fellini, Chaplin or Tati, among the very best ever. Peckinpah is not. Is that so difficult to accept?