Chrysanthemums for a Bunch of Swine / Crisantemi per un branco di carogne (Sergio Pastore, 1967)

The aforementioned thread is mighty edifying and I suggest that everybody interested in the fate of this film parse it because there is lots of intriguing (and sometimes contradictory) information here.

In addition to the said private screening, there is supposedly a collector who obtained a copy of it at some point and posted film’s opening credits on Facebook. The people at Notturno claimed to have seen it and purported to even own a copy of it. Well, either it’s true or it’s a bunch of pathological liars talking out of their ass.

I suspect only someone knowing the ins and outs of the Italian film industry and its vast archive can get to the bottom of this through some investigative work on the ground, perhaps a task for @ItalianStranger?

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German SW (and other hinds of Italo genre cinema) expert Christian Kessler wonders also if this one was released at all, cause "several films of this director were never really released ".

But it seems copies of this one exist.

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I’m reading through the thread and it’s fascinating, some developments have taken place in the meantime. I’ll have my lunch and then post some of the more germane posts from the topic.

Edit:

Dal libro di Marco Giusti vengono fuori alcune dichiarazioni di Gianni Manera ed Edmund Purdom:il primo avrebbe accettato di fare il film solo in virtù di Purdom;il secondo dice di non averlo mai visto e di non essere stato mai pagato dal produttore(forse avrebbe persino abbandonato il set).Aggiunge che Sergio Pastore era un disastro di regista che girava senza fare prove.

Legalmente ĆØ nelle mani di Minerva, purtroppo loro (come per altri film) non posseggono e non riescono a reperirne una copia. Pertanto poco niente si riesce a fare.

Su Facebook un collezionista di cui non posso fare il nome aveva pubblicato l’intro dei titoli di testa …
Ricordo lo schermo viola e la musica di Piero piccioni…diceva che era una vhs o altro e che proveniva dal mercato tedesco…e non voleva mettere nemmeno mezzo secondo del film…solo l’introduzione ai titoli di testa.
Quelli di Nocturno dicevano di averlo visto, addirittura avevano una copia.
Possibile che nessuno lo recensisce e non dice pubblicamente che il film esiste?
Mah…

L’unica pista da battere sarebbe risalire alle distribuzioni regionali di allora che hanno avuto una copia del film (chi erano, dove erano) e capire i loro materiali dove sian finiti nel corso degli anni. A questo punto magari, in qualche magazzino del centro-sud. Considerando che Manera era abruzzese, ci sta che qualche distributore regionale di laggiù abbia avuto la pellicola tra le mani

Salve e bentrovati. PerchĆØ non fare il nome? Si tratta di tal Alfonso Gemito (o Vincenzo De Rosa?) che, tra parentesi, avrebbe dovuto passarmi il film attraverso uno scambio dispari (due titoli rari in cambio di questo). Si ĆØ limitato a dichiarare di possederlo, ma in realtĆ  non lo ha (senza timore di smentita). Il nome lo faccio per due motivi:
1 - Il post in cui ha dichiarato sta stronzata megagalattica ĆØ disponibile ā€œPUBBLICAMENTEā€ su facebook.
2 - Mettere in guardia appassionati e collezionisti che, attratti dalla ghiotta prospettiva di scambio, potrebbero cadere in ā€œtentazioneā€.
Al di lĆ  di tutto, se qualcuno volesse organizzare una ā€œcordataā€ spedizionistica alla ricerca dei materiali perduti dalle fantomatiche distribuzioni regionali, partendo da una ricostruzione filologica, sono assolutamente disponibile

ƈ uscita intanto su Facebook una foto di scena del film pubblicata dalla nipote della produttrice…speriamo bene…

Here are some screenshots (cropped for viewing comfort):





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that’s wild

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The above screenshots might actually be taken from another movie by Sergio Pastore, namely Il diario proibito di Fanny.

Depending on how interested you are in the case, you could perhaps try contacting Saggiatore85 from that forum and ask him if he’s got any leads as to film’s whereabouts (he might know some more considering he’s determined enough to meet some deceitful collectors in the flesh with a view to obtaining a print of it).

Either way, little can be changed without some investigative work on the ground, but at least lots of people seem hellbent on finding it.

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Thanks for all the replies. It gave me the will to continue searching.

The foto uploaded by Serena Paparatti is here (thanks Mickey13 for sharing):

I’ve just put a comment and I wrote her a private message. Let’s see.

I will contact Saggiatore85 on the Italien forum to know more about the movie location.

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The substantial piece of information to bear in mind is that at this point, Minerva seems to own the rights to the movie even if they do not own a copy of it physically. The most logical path forward would be to contact these people, especially those involved in the archives, and see where that leads you.

If I ever win the lottery, I will finance some sort of Italian movie detective unit that can dig through basements, attics and archives all over Europe…

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Many years ago, I pretended to be Edmund Purdom on the now defunct spaghetti western web board asking for a copy!

I think when and if we see it, we will be disappointed, just like when we eventually saw Vamos a Matar Sartana and Porno Erotico Western.

Well, considering that Pastore is responsible for the bĆŖte noire of the giallo genre, i.e. Delitti, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. Then again, it might turn out to be okay, you never know.

You can contact the Cineteca Nazionale (Italy’s national film archive in Rome) directly with questions about films; as a public archive, it is available to researchers, students, and film enthusiasts for inquiries.

The Cineteca Nazionale offers specific services for film-related inquiries:

On-site consultation: At the video library at its headquarters in Rome (Via Tuscolana 1524), digitized films and clips can be viewed at individual stations with headphones. This is available exclusively for academic purposes and requires a prior reservation via email.

Cultural lending: Copies of films can be borrowed for cultural events without commercial intent (e.g., film series, festivals). The Office for Cultural Dissemination (Diffusione culturale) is responsible for this.

Information and Research: The archive answers inquiries regarding its collection of approximately 60,000 titles, including information on restorations and historical documents.

Contact Information

The following contact options are available for specific inquiries:

General Inquiries & Video Library: urp@fondazionecsc.it or videoteca@fondazionecsc.it (to schedule viewing appointments).

Screening Loans: diffusioneculturale@fondazionecsc.it (to borrow film copies).

Phone: +39 06 722941.

Address: Via Tuscolana 1524, 00173 Rome, Italy.

I have tried but didn’t receive an answer, perhabs You have more luck!

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hi guys,

Still no news from the lost movie, meanwhile I learned how to play the sountrack with the guitar, I hope you will like it :

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