Charlton Heston has passed away

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Charlton Heston has passed away aged 84. Cause of death has not been released yet but he had suffered from a form of Alzheimers for the past few years.

Unfortunately, Heston has made more headlines in recent years for his right wing politics than for his acting and although he probably wasn’t a character I would have neccesarily wanted around for dinner his body of film work was genuinely impressive. Over the next few days we will probably be swamped with mention of his epics like The Ten Commandments and Ben Hur but he was involved in many more and far better pictures than these over a very long and distinguished career.

Personal favourites of mine which featured Heston at his best were Touch of Evil, Soylent Green, Planet of the Apes, Khartoum and The Agony and the Ecstasy. But he also made some very good westerns including Will Penny, Major Dundee, The Big Country, Three Violent People and The Mountain Men.

Despite my diametrical position with the politics of Charlton Heston the man, I will always consider myself a fan of Charlton Heston the actor and am sad to hear of his passing.

RIP.

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Good Words Phil.

The Big Country is also one of my favourite western. Two other favourites of mine with him are EL CID and THE OMEGA MAN.

RIP

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was he the “from my cold dead hands” guy?

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Same here, RIP mr. Heston.

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Watched Major Dundee and The Last hard Men recently
Both good, interesting films

We have been discussing him here on the forum and most of us seemed to agree he was a good actor who had some lousy ideas on guns

Well, everybody is entitled to his own foolishness …

I’ll watch Three Violent Men in the course of next week, it’s one of those films on the ever growing pile …

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That’s the chap.

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Goodbye, Ben Hur… :’(

R.I.P.

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cold dead hands indeed now

RIP

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Charlton Heston obituary up at “Cemetery With Crosses”. :’(

Heston appeared in the 1972 Eurowestern “Call of the Wild”.

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CHARLTON HESTON EPIC GREAT LEGENDARY ACTOR THANKS FOR THE FILMS

PLANET OF THE APES 1968 Charlton Heston and Linda Harrison

CHARLTON HESTON Studio Portrait

Charlton Heston Classic Films :

CALL OF THE WILD 1972 WILL PENNY 1968 OMEGA MAN 1971 BEN HUR 1959
SKYJACKED 1971 SOYLENT GREEN 1973 BUCCANEER 1958 BIG COUNTRY 1958
and many many more superb Films. :slight_smile:

CHARLTON HESTON’s Politics were totally OK with me except for the “right” to guns.
Men like John Wayne and Charlton Heston stood for American Patriotism/values etc
Regardless of the politics we are interested in an actors FILMS /TV SERIES :slight_smile:

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That’s very sad news Heston is way underrated IMO despite the fact that he probably appeard in more larger than life roles than any other actor.

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Can’t say I’m gonna miss him. I have a hard time lamenting the loss oaf any far-right ideologue, regardless of their other contributions. Harsh, I know, but the man stood for some pretty deplorable ideas.

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Of course I’m not going to miss the man, and of course I do not sympathize with his right-wing ideologies

But do we have to condemn an artist for his ideological choices?
If so, we’d have to condemn Sollima and Corbucci too, since they had very simplistic, not to say idiotic left-wing ideas
I don’t think communism was any better than fascism, nor do I think that right-wing ideas are necessarily better than left-wing ideas
In the sixties left-wing ideas were more popular, today right-wing ideas (see Wilders, among many others)
But in general we are, or more in general people are more lenient towards left-wing extremists
The question has been asked more often, but I still haven’t heard a good aswer: why is that?

I know it’s a difficult question and that this isn’t the appropriate forum, but sometimes, somewhere, somehow, somebody must ask such uneasy questions

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No one has mentioned Arrowhead yet >:( , his fight scene with Jack Palance was superb.

I think he will be best remembered for Planet of the Apes , Ben Hur and the bible characters he played.

Another Hollywood legend has passed, so few are left now and there is nobody to take their place IMO. :’(

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RIP Charlton Heston. Hunting dirty apes in the sky now. Shoot one for me :slight_smile:

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ADMIRE AND RESPECT CHARLTON HESTON FOR HIS GREAT EPIC FILMS

NEVER let filthy “politics” interfere with either SPORT or CINEMA !! :’(

CHARLTON HESTON in Masterpiece : Planet Of The Apes 1968

CHARLTON HESTON in Epic Historical Drama : EL Cid 1961

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RIGHT WING Politics are good and “bad” as most politics but men like Heston/Wayne
were always HONEST PATRIOTIC DECENT on screen and off screen. RESPECT :slight_smile:

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[quote=“scherpschutter, post:13, topic:999”]Of course I’m not going to miss the man, and of course I do not sympathize with his right-wing ideologies

But do we have to condemn an artist for his ideological choices?
If so, we’d have to condemn Sollima and Corbucci too, since they had very simplistic, not to say idiotic left-wing ideas
I don’t think communism was any better than fascism, nor do I think that right-wing ideas are necessarily better than left-wing ideas
In the sixties left-wing ideas were more popular, today right-wing ideas (see Wilders, among many others)
But in general we are, or more in general people are more lenient towards left-wing extremists
The question has been asked more often, but I still haven’t heard a good aswer: why is that?

I know it’s a difficult question and that this isn’t the appropriate forum, but sometimes, somewhere, somehow, somebody must ask such uneasy questions[/quote]

Maybe socialism or communism is in theory regarded as a more “good”, “fair”, “beautiful” ideology by many people?

But extreme right-wing, fascism or National Socialism, has actually many things in common with extreme left-wing, this is not two totally opposing political ideologies.

Fascism or NS were also in their own way revolutionary, anti-capitalist and socialist.

But also rascist and anti-Marxist, and this is what sets them apart from communism.

Both fascism and communism are of course also totalitarian ideologies with anti-democratic government systems.

But this guy Heston and his views on guns has absolutely nothing to do with fascism, this is something that is much more appropriate to call “liberal” :smiley:

But the term “fascist” is also very misused and so many people don’t quite know what the hell it stands for :smiley:

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[quote=“scherpschutter, post:13, topic:999”]But do we have to condemn an artist for his ideological choices?
If so, we’d have to condemn Sollima and Corbucci too, since they had very simplistic, not to say idiotic left-wing ideas[/quote]

But Corbucci and Sollima weren’t very extreme in their opinions, or were they?

At least their films don’t content radical political statements. Both films which were based on screenplays by Franco Solinas were altered so much that Solinas was only mentioned for story/idea, not as screenplay writer. Solinas was probably a radical leftist, and both stories were much more pessimistic than the resulting films. I always imagined that he wasn’t satisfied with La resa dei conti and Il mercenario.

Only a few films of both directors could be called as politic, and compared to the “politic” films of their time, they were more popular than politic.

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Well, it was only Heston’s intervention/influence that Orson Welles was accepted as director of Touch of Evil. It became Heston’s best film.

He also gave his salary for Major Dundee to help Sam Peckinpah in his struggle with the producer, but Columbia took his money and the film.
Asked by a reporter if this could set a new standard amongst actors, he answered this would not even set a standard for himself.

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You are right on you last comment Lindberg, but National socialism (Nazism) isn’t right wing, it is left wing.
And no one who is liberal can be fascist at the same time so fascism is not right wing either (I assume that marxcism/socialism is to the left and Liberalism to the right).
The left wingers always want to place all kind of extremists on the right wing, but that is absurd because liberalism is the direct opposite to all forms of extremism.

I know that is not what the reds are brainwashing our children to believe in school but it’s the truth none the less.