Youāre an absolute star Lone_Gringo.
I know this Spanish VHS
plays in English language, but does anyone know what the running time of it is? Is it longer than the dvd releases?
Remember seeing Yodlaf selling one on E Bay a while backā¦he might know.
Thanks ENNIOO, Iāll give him a shout. 
Anyone have the White Pearl release?
Bought it from my local DVD dealer yesterday. He told me not to expect too much, the label being White Pearl Classics / Daredo, infamous for its poor releases of Spaghetti Westerns. Rushed through it today: obviously compiled from various analog and digital video sources; image quality differs widely from scene to scene; audio tracks in German and English, the latter incomplete; running time: 92 min 40 s (PAL).
Finally watched the whole movie. As could be expected from White Pearl Classics, the DVD is an utter mess. Both language tracks are incomplete, image quality is alternately bad, worse and worst.
Enjoyed the film, though ā my second Julio Buchs Western after El hombre que matĆ³ a Billy el NiƱo (1967), which wasnāt so bad either (at least much better than I had expected it to be). Los desesperados felt somewhat disjointed, storywise and, of course, editingwise, since the version I watched was obviously patched together from different sources. At least the (in)famous Annabella Incontrera scenes were reinstated.
@stanton: Iām sure you know where the White Pearl Classics label āfoundā the āfootageā it used for this abysmal DVD release, right?
Tijuana?
Does that mean the DVD is a bootleg?
No, but hey probably took the missing scenes form the Tijuana edition. They probably took the whole film form that version, only I donāt know why it is shorter. Well, they probably cut some of the stuff which was missing form the German version.
But what do you meant with "Iām sure you know where the White Pearl Classics label āfoundā the āfootageā ", if not this?
Thanks! Yes, exactly, thatās what I meant. I thought you would know ā I wasnāt sure.
Also watched this one and enjoyed it, certainly a lot more than Deaf Smithā¦ I think it was a bit too episodic for itās own good but was a good run-of-the-mill spag with some nice Spanish tragedy style elements. Probably wouldāve enjoyed it more if Iād seen the uncut version though. Anyone know if itās available on a DVDR at all?
Is the German DVD uncut or the same version as the VCI disc?
For anyone interested, I did a comparison and the US DVD (which is cut more than the German one) has a slightly better picture quality than the German DVD.
The US DVD has more finer detail and better colors. The German print looks a bit washed out and doesnāt retain as much detail. The German one looks to be filtered in a not so good way.
Its more noticeable when watching the video than these screenshots depict, while its not a huge difference the US print does look much better IMO.
I may put together a composite using these sources as this is a great spaghetti that hasnāt gotten a proper release. My time / ability to do this stuff is almost non existent recently, but may be able to do this up real quick.
Screenshots from:
92min - German disc
90min - US disc
100.5min - Spanish TV print (no ending credits)
poster dump!
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Good to see you drop in again ā¦ this is a great project idea. Sandoval has been shown on UK tv, but itās the short version and the image is so soft, itās even lower quality than the Spanish TV version. It deserves some restoration love. Good luck.
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I have it on DVD. All I remember is Ernest Borgnine hamming it up intensely.
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Hello autephex, nice to see you around again.
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hey guysā¦ thanks for the welcome back.
Unfortunately Iāve had to step away from these kinds of projects again as life just hasnāt granted me the time to put any focus on this stuff, but hopefully will get back to some of the last unfinished projects at some point. But I will prob put this composite together sometime soon as this shouldnāt be too hard a job or take very long.
Really surprised this title hasnāt gotten more attention yet.
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Whatās wrong with the existing Tijuana version?
It combines the US disc with all known other scenes taken from a pretty good VHS version. The German disc, which is btw only a bootleg anyway, does not more than using these 2 sources also, but obviously it is not a complete version. My Tijuana edit runs 102 min, and must be the longest version in circulation.
Where did you come by this Tijuana edit? I havenāt seen such a composite in my usual sources.
Aldoās english/spanish dub version using a Spanish TV print is the longest Iāve come across at 100min
After reviewing the thread, I donāt see anyone here mentioning having this Tijuana edit except you. ENNIOO mentioned aldoās fandub, but donāt see any mentions of the composite youāre referencing. Would gladly just snag that one, but if it isnāt available to everyone then its not much good for usā¦