So far the worst I’ve seen would be a tie between Boot Hill and Return of Sabata…ugh!!!
Then you should praise yourself lucky. There are far worse ones out there.
Yep…I know I’ll eventually see the bad ones but as a relative newcomer I’m using the benefit of the good people of this forum to weed out the turkeys so far! ![]()
RETURN OF SABATA 1971 Lee Van Cleef Reiner Schone Annabella Incontrera
Directed by : Gianfranco Parolini
Return of SABATA 1972 is actually a BETTER Film than some in the Forum’s Top 20.
I prefer Return Of Sabata 72 , to MY Name Is Nobody 1974 , Duck You Sucker 1971 :’(
This is a fairly GOOD FILM with Lee Van Cleef, an unusual plot, an interesting director.
If you are talking of WORST FILM the Forum should surely concentrate on well known
ABYSMAL turkeys : Terence Hill/Bud Spencer Fat Slob "unfunny comedies"
I am amazed, shocked, disappointed if any other SWs are mentioned when Hill/Spencer
"comedies" are by miles the WORST SW EVER MADE, in fact are they even a SW ? :’(
SD, I think you might have forgotten the SW musicals. Surly they are even worse? No?
I haven’t seen any of the “musical” SW’s but chances are I would hate these even more than SD hates his Hill/Spencer comedies.
I won’t be watching Rita of the West since I value my well being and do not want to subject myself to undue mental and psychological harm.
All I need is to read the passage in Howard Hughes book describing one of the musical numbers:
“HOWDY, HOWDY, HOWDY…SCERIFFO!”
hahaha you have got to be fuckin kidding me.
[quote=“Col. Douglas Mortimer, post:105, topic:176”]I haven’t seen any of the “musical” SW’s but chances are I would hate these even more than SD hates his Hill/Spencer comedies.
I won’t be watching Rita of the West since I value my well being and do not want to subject myself to undue mental and psychological harm.
All I need is to read the passage in Howard Hughes book describing one of the musical numbers:
“HOWDY, HOWDY, HOWDY…SCERIFFO!”
hahaha you have got to be fuckin kidding me.[/quote]
Yeah man Col. DM 
This Rita Of The West 67 has got an embarassed Terence Hill in it and worse still this
alleged “singer” Rita Pavone was a small, tomboy, fastidious, screechy voiced nuisance.
I never understood who in Italy ever liked Pavone or her “singing”, her mum maybe ? :’(
Nice seeing that you haven’t cleaned up your language one bit SD. Do you have to use derogatory remarks like these? Try removing the Fat Slob-remark and you would have stated the same but without pissing people like me off. Thank you very much.
Yes SD I remember when you got mad at someone for saying Jeffrey Hunter was fat, and now you say the same thing about Bud Spencer, which would understandibly piss the Spencer fans off. Apparently Spencer is quite the accomplished gentleman, olympic swimmer, politician, has a law degree. Yes he sports a gut but he is mostly muscle all around, although as an actor he is like a glorified Mario Brega to me.
Anyway according Thomas Weisser’s book, apparently Rita turns into a ball of energy because she is so happy that Terence Hill loves her. Can anyone confirm this? This is really bizarre.
Avatardk if you need to “piss off” after I describe the abysmal Hill/Spencer turkeys/comedy then DO. ![]()
I am not saying anything that is untrue/incorrect and am describing Hill/Spencer as they
are/were. Totally unfunny/abysmal/corpulent one silly the other one, its so obvious.
I will NOT be intimidated into your sort of “grovelling/subservient” attitude Avatardk ???
This is a SW Italian Westerns Forum NOT an appreciation of obese/unfunny “actors” :-\
Col. DM
Yes I had a “clash” with the REV after he said some things about Jeffrey Hunter etc.
The clear difference is that JEFFREY HUNTER was at his peak 1960s Handsome/slim
talented leading man of Classic SW/Thrillers/Westerns, while this Spencer fellow is
NONE of those things and his only claims to “fame” are those atrocious “comedies” :o
Spencer may be a man of other parts but he is very chubby/tubby/lardy on screen.
I do though appreciate Bud Spencer when he acts properly in serious/quality SWs Etc.
I havn’t plucked up courage either, but when I do I’m hoping it’s gonna be in the ‘so bad it’s good’ category!
[quote=“SARTANA DJANGO, post:109, topic:176”]Yes I had a “clash” with the REV after he said some things about Jeffrey Hunter etc. …
while this Spencer fellow is
NONE of those things and his only claims to “fame” are those atrocious “comedies” :o
Spencer may be a man of other parts but he is very chubby/tubby/lardy on screen.[/quote]
I AM guilty of refering to dear Jeff as a bit beer-bellyish, (and I certainly don’t wanna dig up those ol’ differences again) - but that was in relation to him playing a young man… and I was highlighting the apparent ‘ravages of time’ on our man-boy, and how they didn’t ‘gel’ with the film as a whole. I’ve also been guilty of sticking Fernando’s man-bosoms in the ‘nudity’ thread, but it was in good humour and as a lighthearted reaction to posting all the nubiles. BUT, I aint gonna get too personal about a-going-nudie Mr. Sancho or about a fully-clothed Bud Spencer. I truly hate the ‘comedy’-stuff that BS does, but it ain’t personal. I don’t give a toss on a personal level that he did that stuff to earn a buck. And I don’t give a toss how fat he is - cos’ unlike Jeff, it at least goes with the parts he plays. But Bud is, as you say SD, ‘a man of other parts’, and in ‘Massacre at Fort Holman’ and ‘God forgives …’ he is brilliant! ‘Lardy’ just isn’t really a fair analysis of a man. There are more important facets to Bud Spencer … even if it’s only in relation to a discussion of the spaghetti westerns that we love … and hate.
Boy, I can tolerate a LOT of bad Spaghettis and enjoy them on SOME level but when they have bad slapstick comedy or (god forbid) singing, I start to sink back into my chair in a unconscious move to get as far from the screen as possible.
That said: Rita Of The West is my pick for most horrible, least watchable, amazingly bad Spaghetti ever.
And, as I have said elsewhere, I love Ferdinando Baldi’s films.
Ferdinando WHAT were you thinkin’?
Believe me there are worser and more boring SWs then Little Rita, which is … , well, a oddity.
What’s about Baldi’s Get Mean? What were he and Tony Anthony thinking by making this turkey? Not so much, not so much …
Or do you like Get Mean?
[quote=“stanton, post:112, topic:176”]Believe me there are worser and more boring SWs then Little Rita, which is … , well, a oddity.
What’s about Baldi’s Get Mean? What were he and Tony Anthony thinking by making this turkey? Not so much, not so much …
Or do you like Get Mean?[/quote]
If there are indeed worst SW’s than Rita like you say, than for all of those who have seen them…You have my utmost condolennces and unadulterated sympathy. I can only imagine the personal hell that you are living through.
Now on a more serious note, I really do hate musicals. I just can’t stand how people can all of a sudden start singing and dancing as if thats waht “normal people” do. I walked out of the theatre watching “Sweeney Todd”, after 15 minutes. It was just too much to bear. I was an idiot for letting my stupid friends talk me into seeing it.
As for Get Mean. Wasn’t this the red headed step sister of the Stranger films? It looks like even Allen Klein didn’t want to get his hands dirty with this one. I’ve only seen the first two stranger films. I don’t really consider the other stranger films to be SW’s since they take place in other countries.
[quote=“stanton, post:112, topic:176”]Believe me there are worser and more boring SWs then Little Rita, which is … , well, a oddity.
What’s about Baldi’s Get Mean? What were he and Tony Anthony thinking by making this turkey? Not so much, not so much …
Or do you like Get Mean?[/quote]
I figure there are worse films in an objective sense but for some reason I just can’t stomach much of Little Rita. I actually had to force myself to watch it (but being a good Spaghetti masochist I kinda had fun). And poor Gordon Mitchel playing an hokey Indian Chief…thank god he didn’t sing.
I am ashamed to admit it but I have not seen Get Mean. I also have not seen Baldi’s Carambola films.
The films by Baldi that I admire most are The Forgotten Pistolero, Get The Coffin Ready & Blindman.
I have 3D version of Comin’ At Ya! whose quality is so bad it gives me a headache after a couple of minutes.
Actually, now that I reflect a bit, there is a movie that I found repulsive in a different way than Little Rita. As you said Little Rita is an oddity. It is fun to me for that reason, if no other.
The film I should have named as the worst to me is The White, The Yellow & The Black. I had forgotten that I could not even watch it all the way through. As Kurtz said in Heart Of Darkness: “the horror, the horror”.
Well, now I’m going to have to track down a copy of Get Mean and give a look (if I can bear to)!
Strangely - YES.
Well, at least it kept me entertained and I never once thought about turning it off. It was just so … unpredictable, and hammy … but … not boring.
On the other hand, I find George Eastman films to be less than they should be. I don’t dislike all - ‘Vendetta at Dawn’ was pretty good, but for me his cheesy-one-for-the-ladieees-style of acting ruined The Belle Starr Story and made Poker with Pistols hard work.
Recently i tried to watch ‘Bastard, Go and Kill’, and there was no way I could sit voluntarily thru’ this junk! It’s maybe just the vehicles he’s in … but I doubt it. I just don’t think that I like his style of macho, muscle-brained posturing. It doesn’t make up for a lack of charisma or talent.
‘Bastard, Go and Kill’ may have the best ending in spaghetti-dom, but I doubt that I’ll ever get there.
At least ‘Get Mean’ was so bad that it was good, in an off-the-wall originally-sort of way …a far worse sin is blandly mediocre - and a macho, muscle-y cheesy grin may win over the ladies, in that sadly-sexist way, but it don’t do a thing for me.
‘Bastard, Go Kill’ gets my turkey-vote!
Good Point. There are a number of Spaghettis that are “so bad they’re good” but the truly bad ones are the ones that are just boring, uniteresting and incompetent. At least Little Rita was in the category of So Bad It’s Good.
I’m with you on George Eastman. Myself, I found him particularly annoying in Django, The Last Killer. I kept hoping Anthony Ghidra would kill him (in a horrible, horrible way).
I’m tracking down Ghidra movies at the mo., and pretty much enjoying them - but I ain’t seen D,LK yet - please let it be that he dispatches Georgie Cheeseman in a fittingly dispicable way!!! (And please don’t tell me if he don’t, or I’ll never get to watch it ;).)
The Carambola films I have avoided up to this day, … comedies … you know, and bad ones they are, according to their reputation.
Corbucci’s 3 color comedy Spag, … boy, this one was bad enough, and the Tresette films also. But I think there are much worser SW comedies than these, so if you look for the bottom of the genre, comedies are the 1st choice.
But on the other hand comedies SW are no real Spags. And there are also enough very boring “dramatic” or “serious” SWs, and one of them, the one with the least ideas of all, this one must also be the worst, but fortunately I don’t remember all the worse SWs I have seen, so I can’t name the winner of the losers.
Maybe there was one Fidani which was really the most terrible, but the name …
Il Bianco, il giallo, il nero AKA “Corbucci hits rock bottom” I found to be mildly enjoyable but poorly made. I’m not quite sure what Corbucci was trying to do with this movie. Yes i agree if you consider this the worse ever from the sheer political incorrectness standpoint.
I think we seem to AGREE pretty much on what makes a WORST SW Film:
The essential ingredients needed for the WORSE SW are:
1.“Comedy” or “Idiotic Slapstick” :’(
2. Terence Hill or Bud Spencer or Tomas Milian behaving Like Madcap Lunatics :-\
3. Superfluous or unecessary “singing” especially if the singing is loud/dull :’(
4. Any SW made after 1977 is bound to be lacking in quality acting/plot/direction ???
I DO NOT agree with malicious and unfounded criticisms of DEMOFILO FIDANI 
Demofilo Fidani was a very innovative, talented, enterprising Director who managed on
limited budgets to create/direct numerous enjoyable/cult SWs with Leading SW stars.