What are your unpopular Spaghetti Western opinions?

Trinity and Sartana Are Coming (1972) (a.k.a. Trinity and Sartana, Those Dirty S.O.B.s) is an underrated and funny Italian western that is fun for the whole family. It may even be “the feel-good comedy of 1972”!

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Eli Wallach stealing the show for the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly as Tuco is definitely a popular opinion :blush:. I definitely agree that Charles Bronson tends to play the same, stoical, tough guy killers in most of his films. The one film that challenged my assumptions about Bronson’s acting chops was the 1976 action/comedy, ‘St. Ives,’ with Jacqueline Bisset, John Houseman, and Jeff Goldblum (in another bit role as a violent hoodlum).

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Aaw, I love this film too! There’s just something really heartwarming about it

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I think the exact same thing. I don’t think anyone actually gets shot and killed in the movie, which is refreshing every once in a while :slightly_smiling_face:

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I like Sartana in the valley of death and dislike kill them all and come. Back alone

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I like MGM’s overly green/yellow The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Blu-ray more than Kino Lorber’s more evenly-toned 4K. I think it’s a great aesthetic for the movie.

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Is this the thread where you can tell your genuine opinion without being stoned? Love it. :smiley:

  1. The Great Silence, Death Rides a Horse and Cemetery Without Crosses are ok movies but not good enough to be in top 20.
  2. Castellari was a terrible western director and most of his movies suck.
  3. Almost all of Varis movies are sleep-inducing despite being well made.
  4. Johnny Yuma is by far the most underrated SW.
  5. El Puro is extremely overrated trash.
  6. People make their top 20 lists not really based on their own preferences but they are heavily influenced by the generally accepted opinion (me included but I am working on that and the updated list will be 100% mine).
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You’re taking unpopular to a new level! … but I agree with a few of these statements.

:rofl:

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That’s because there are a few, not many but a very small few, people on here that will accuse you of trying to be edgy instead of posting what are truly (in their opinion, of course) the best spaghetti westerns. :laughing: My top 20 is my top 20. If someone disagrees then that is their prerogative but don’t try to tell me that I don’t truly like what I like. This really is a pet peeve of mine and pisses me off to no end.

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Yeah, ok, but that’s too generalizing. I think some do others don’t, it’s hard to tell.

My list at least reflects to 100 % my taste, or in other words the entertainment value these films have for me.

But I checked your list, and yep, you have Silenzio as the 2nd best. Well, at least Death Rides a Horse is not in it …
Now I’m curious why you did that if you think so low about that one? Is the general opinion really so important?
But I’m more curious to see your 100% list.

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My unpopular opinion is that I don’t need newly restored 8k or 12k releases of all Leone westerns that have been restored with a medium that consulted directly with Sergio’s spirit and contain on average 14 seconds of never before seen footage until there is a good Blu-ray of Any Gun Can Play, or about 4 or 5 dozens of perfectly enjoyable spaghetti westerns that are still not available in ye olde high definition at all.

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No, I don’t… It was never on my top 20. Check one more time. I never even considered it to be on the list but there are others I liked but put them on the list just because of the general consensus.

No, it is not BUT I think people often pick a better made movie to a movie they really prefer in their heart. At least I realized that I put on my list some excellently made movies but I prefered to watch something else instead.

I don’t think The Great Silence is that low. I just don’t think it is top 20 stuff. It is just a boring screenwriting that puts me off. I am very picky about screenplay. For instance Corbucci’s The Specialists is imo so much better written than The Great Silence. The Specialists is one of those that is going to be on my updated list. :wink:

It will be coming soon. I am actually undecided only about the last position. It will be probably hard to comprehend for some that I picked movies that are not that well made but I had more fun with them. Well I will try to exlain why I picked them in the top 20 thread.

Oh and one more thing. I really like your comments. Often really spot on.

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Thanks …

… and sorry, I got for Silenzio in the wrong column when I checked your list.

I enjoy more the directing, the visual storytelling than the screenplay, but I think that Silenzio has some interesting things going on in the screenplay.
But your soon old list is already a good mixture of classics and some not that wide spreaded films.

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Of course, that’s a general problem with all kinds of film lists.

I’m thinking about putting They Call Me Halleluja in my next update, it’s only some silliness which made me excluding it so far, but it climbs with every re-watch.

Btw, by checking your comments, my list seems to be made of ok movies, sleep inducing films and overrated trash … not bad as a start … :wink:

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I would agree about The Great Silence. Undoubtedly the shock ending is the main reason for its elevated status. I like that the ending illustrates how anything can happen in SW’s, but in my opinion there’s not much left for subsequent viewings outside of atmosphere.

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Seems like this a popular opinion … I agree too!

I often think with so many upgraded versions on different formats that it would be nice to get a reduction in price , say if you handed in your VHS or Betamax tapes as part exchange on the never ending ‘Ultimate’ version … Obviously this is never gonna happen, but it is a good example of how distributors really squeeze all they can from film fans, anxious to see more detail …

Well, here’s something many younger fans might not be aware of - Most Blu ray releases of ‘vintage’ films, look nothing like the way they did on their original 35mm cinema releases … there is so much fiddling and filtering with colour and contrast and artificial sharpening and adding grain that wasn’t there to begin with, that you’re only seeing a version, which is based in many cases on what is visually popular at the moment - All the BD reviews that I’ve read about solid colour and true black tones etc etc, is pure shite from journos trying to sound technically proficient - You don’t get solid black in analogue colour film … if you want hard contrast you shoot in black and white, but production companies don’t want to try and sell the public a B&W film.

So yes, back to the original point … More new releases please and less exploitation of film fans - Thank you.

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It would be a very boring life if everyone was the same.

For me it is a combo of more things but screenwriting is somewhere on the top. I noticed you very much prefer what we could call “style” over anything else. If I was crazy about style I would pick Boot Hill too. It is incredibly stylish. :smiley:

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One of the big reason I wish more boutique blu ray companies would follow the trend of putting a ‘Grind house’ version in the extras. 88 Films have it on a few of their Italian releases which is just a raw scan of a 35mm print with no digital cleanup or anything

I do think prints really enhance some films. I just watched Se7en for the first time yesterday via a 35mm online scan I got from a twitter guy I follow who has a huge online archive of both 35mm scans and open matte scans of films. The slightly beaten up and speck filled print worked so well for the dingy-ness of the film!

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For me it is of course also a combo of more things (acting, music etc), but the directing as part of a narrative concept is something that is in direct way entertaining. It is not really style over substance, it is more precise to say to a large extent the style is the substance.
For me the experience of a film, the way I enjoy a film, is closer to music than to novels.

I am definitely not very interested in the message of a film, but more in the way that message is elaborated narratively by the directing.

Well, yeah, that’s at least the direction …

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The Last Gun is actually pretty good.

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