I have not seen it yet, but have in my to watch pile.
Itās filmed in Italy
[quote=āBad Lieutenant, post:102, topic:457ā]Itās filmed in Italy[/quote]Which doesnāt make it a sw in my eyes.
Is this film really western? There seems to be police cars in the poster.
Not a western for sure in my view, and have viewed a couple of times. Set in modern day, well modern day when the film was made in the mid 80ās.
Maybe Iāll add some āthis is not a westernā tag or something to the page then.
Actually, we should delete itā¦ Seb?
Maybe it is a half-western. Set in the present, but with many western elements.
The story seems to be from a western.
all depends on what you consider āwesternā, if thereās people on horses in the west then maybe okayā¦ but itās not really set in the old west I supposeā¦
Man, Pride, Vengeance or La colera del viento arenāt either.
Question is if it contains enough western elements to call it at least a half western. Ennio may know ā¦
Alot of car chases in the film. Also a helicopter is used in a chase sequence. Automatic weopons also used. Some guys wear cowboy hats and the main guy wants his horses back, but does not feel like a western to me. The story is similar to a western, but still not enough elements for a half western in my view. Some people may think it has more western elements than me, but for me it a modern day chase film with a story similar to one used in many westerns.
The itās not a western. Otherwise we could add Kill Bill, too.
Kill Bill is not an European film
uuuh lawyered
Btw: what about two British co-productions with Guy Pearce: The Proposition and Ravenous. The first is an outback western and the second one could be considered horror western and itās set during Mexican-American war if I remember correctly. Iād say letās add them for the sake of completeness. Any other opinions and comments?
Havenāt seen Ravenous so canāt comment on that but The Proposition doesnāt qualify in my opinion. Westerns need to be set in North America as far as Iām concerned. Iām sure there are those who disagree (we have had this discussion regularly over the years I think) but that would be my call on it.
I havenāt seen Ravenous yet, but from what I read it is an Euro western.
The Proposition is maybe a half western, and is an Australian film anyway.
The Proposition is UK co-produced and western in style, but not a western technically. Same as, for example, Ned Kelly.
A film like Dead Man would be a more likely candidate, due to it being a western. But, the German money in it aside, it is purely an American film.
But there are cases more borderline than that, which would be nice to discuss.
Havenāt seen Ravenous, by the way.
For me personally, The Proposition definitely qualifies as a western (Wikipedia tells me that westerns set in Australia are known as āmeat pie westernsā, although I canāt say Iāve ever heard the term), and tbh is one of the best Iāve ever seen. But I can fully appreciate the argument that a western set geographically outside of North America (or, being even more fundamental, outside the āwild westā) cannot by definition be a āwesternā. Itās a bit like the argument about champagne coming from anywhere other than Champagne. On the other hand I donāt think it belongs on this, the Spaghetti Western Database. I mean, itās just instinctive, I donāt feel that there should be a dollar or a percentage threshold that confirms a movie as either āqualifiedā or āDISqualifiedā. Itās just that in the instance of The Proposition, the Euro involvement isnāt obvious enough, for me.
But, bear in mind I know cock-all about cock-all. I put my jumper on inside-out this morning.
Two recent Italian productions (1 feature length film with Castellari and 1 short):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIL-2FNhB-k
http://www.farwest.it/?p=13902[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIL-2FNhB-k