Bad Lieutenant, did anyone ever tell you that your facebook page is infantile?
There is not iota of cinematic aptitude or talent on your facebook page.
If you don’t like my list or my reasoning, don’t read it.
If you’re not to lazy to review the thread, you’ll find that some members have posted more than one list, exceeded twenty titles, and bent the rules this way and that way.
So what I did fits right in.
Why don’t you post your own list before criticizing others?
[quote=“Richard–W, post:153, topic:3170”]Bad Lieutenant, did anyone ever tell you that your facebook page is infantile?
There is not iota of cinematic aptitude or talent on your facebook page.[/quote]
And the winner of the swdb SD award 2015 is…
Longer lists are no problem, as long as only the first twenty of a list are taken into account for a final Top 20 or whatever.
But if someone wishes his list will be taken into account, he should put the movies in order of preference. After all the idea is: N°1 getting 20 points, N°2 19 points, etc. If the movies are put in random or chronological order, the most logical idea would be to award them one point each, which would harm their chances.
I find lists with American and Italian movies included also very interesting, but we should create another thread for such lists, this thread is called ‘Vote for our Top 20 U.S. westerns’, so only American movies should be included.
Ok, which then means that in your opinion the 20 best westerns were made after 1966.
I'm also saying that spaghetti westerns are not valid choices in a list of the top American westerns.
There are no SWs in the lists. The one on this page by LastCaress is obviously an Off-topic list, and therefore not intended to be counted.
Further, I would add that limiting the list to 20 titles only works if you've seen very few American westerns.
That’s completely unlogical. On the contrary, such a list makes the more sense the more westerns one has watched.
But yes, if one has seen only 20 westerns the list is more easy to compile.
I could also make a top 100 or a top 200, and still some fine westerns wouldn’t make the list.
But limiting the list to 20 forces me to think about the ones I really set above the others.
Hehe, I actually thought of SD even prior to this reaction. But Richard is right, my film wouldn’t make his top 20 (or top 500, which is the same in his book).
Thanks for looking Richard, appreciate it 
Script is almost finished, by the way…
[quote=“Richard–W, post:153, topic:3170”]Bad Lieutenant, did anyone ever tell you that your facebook page is infantile?
There is not iota of cinematic aptitude or talent on your facebook page.
If you don’t like my list or my reasoning, don’t read it.
If you’re not to lazy to review the thread, you’ll find that some members have posted more than one list, exceeded twenty titles, and bent the rules this way and that way.
So what I did fits right in.
Why don’t you post your own list before criticizing others?[/quote]
Richard W, did anyone ever tell you that you’re belligerent and condescending, or that you bring up things that are utterly irrelevant for matters at hand?
Why don’t you read the list I posted, instead of criticising me unjustly for not posting it? But even if I hadn’t made such a list, I still would have made valid points. However, I’m sure you are a legend in your own brain, and therefore anybody else does not make any sense.
Especially for you, I rarely do this, I quote myself:
[quote=“Bad Lieutenant, post:12, topic:3170”]Not a big fan of American westerns, but a list would look something like this:
Richard, you’re a bit of a bellend, mate. I’ve had a look through your posts and you’ve definitely got form for talking like a complete weapon. Constantly talking down to people, you. Do you talk in that patronizing manner all the time, out in the real world? Would you do it to my face? Not a chance, fella. Not a chance. So don’t do it here.
Have a try at actually reading the posts before charging in with your “Why are some of you listing European films in a thread about U.S. westerns?”, you lemon. You’re obviously just lightly scanning everyone else’s contributions before wading in with your judgments and declarations, so if you’re showing everyone that little respect why should anyone give a lubricated cockrub for anything you’re chatting on about?
Politeness costs nothing, but it’s worth everything. There’s nothing here but decent people, and a limp salad like you tends to stand out. So you can either wind your fucking neck in and join the community, or take off. Simples. This brilliant, brilliant place isn’t going to be turned into a shithole by the likes of you, sunshine.
(with apologies to Sebastian and the wider SWDB community; but people like this helmet here, are not my sort of people)
Richard - you’ve had warnings from mods previously on this website and you’re essentially being warned again. It’s not you’re opinions that are wrong (they’re subjective and have as much legitimacy as everyone else’s), but the way you express them. Please act in the cordial manner that we’re used to on this forum.
I limited it to 20 as I feel for most people, after that it becomes a more arbitrary and less interesting list to read. I also wanted a US counterpart to the site’s official Spaghetti Western list.
[quote=“Richard–W, post:153, topic:3170”]Bad Lieutenant, did anyone ever tell you that your facebook page is infantile?
There is not iota of cinematic aptitude or talent on your facebook page.
If you don’t like my list or my reasoning, don’t read it.
If you’re not to lazy to review the thread, you’ll find that some members have posted more than one list, exceeded twenty titles, and bent the rules this way and that way.[/quote]
HAHAHAHA, what a grimy, boorish and unsophisticated twat you are, Richard… 
It’s good that unlike you, Bad Lieutenant has a sense of humour and is not going to be displeased by your blatant churlishness.
I don’t think it’s about articulating one’s sentiments anymore. Richard overtly insults other members and such lowly demeanour should not be countenanced. Just like last.caress, I apologise for my uncouth comment, but there is no way I can blink at Richard provoking other members. He should get what he has been supplicating for a long time; he should finally get banned.
[quote=“ION BRITTON, post:2, topic:3170”]It’s my list from another thread and I’m reposting it here, it hasn’t changed much
LAWMAN (1971) and CHATO’S LAND (1972) are actually British productions, produced by the Michael Winner company on a distribution deal from MGM, the former in Mexico and the latter in Spain. Although the films employ American actors they’re not really American westerns. The Brits made a number of very interesting westerns.
Some of your other choices, MACHO CALLAHAN (1970), THE HUNTING PARTY (1971) and THE DEADLY TRACKERS (1973) are more international than American westerns, emulating the spaghetti western and being in filmed in Spain and Mexico with mixed money and mixed crews.
TO ALL ,what are your favorite westerns? If youll indulge me and my thoughtful top 20 How long does your top ten last? I go…
One Eyed Jacks
Rio Bravo
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
Johnny Guitar
True Grit (2010)
Warlock
Outlaw Josey Wales
Ride Lonesome
3:10 to Yuma (1957)
Ravenous
Ride the High Country
The White Buffalo
The Wild Bunch
Dances with Wolves
The Professionals
Buffalo Bill and the Indians
Day of the Outlaw
Dead Man
The Furies
From Noon Till Three
Just missed my 20. I read the book every summer.
It would be a good idea to include the current top20 to first post of this topic. Now it’s kinda hidden somewhere in the middle. @John_Welles?
My Big US 20, as things stand:
Bad Company (Benton, 1972), Two Mules For Sister Sara (Siegel, 1970), Wyatt Earp (Kasdan, 1994), Meek’s Cutoff (Reichardt, 2010) and Seraphim Falls (Von Ancken, 2006) all sit just outside the 20, and I’ve yet to see the (relatively) new pictures Sweetwater aka Sweet Vengeance (Miller, 2013), Echoes of War (Senes, 2015), Diablo (Roeck, 2015) and Forsaken (Cassar, 2015), all of which are sat waiting for me on my pc. I’ve also got half a dozen bona fide classics waiting on my pc which I really should’ve watched by now (The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Bend of the River, El Dorado, Jeremiah Johnson, The Man From Laramie and The Missouri Breaks), and I bought Marlon Brando’s One Eyed Jacks (1961) months ago and still haven’t looked at it yet, so I’ve got some western watching to do, and plenty of opportunities for change to my 20.
I still think Rango (Verbinski, 2011) should be allowed in though 
Rango should be let in the Spag list! It is more entertaing and better homage than anytning Tarantino will ever do.
I apologize to all. Back on topic. Heres my revised list with notes on top 10.
Did you read Seydor’s recent book on Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid? There’s a whole chapter in there all about its connection with One Eyed Jacks.
Haven’t read that. I have the gifford book on OEJ, called brando rides alone, thats kinda been my bible since I was teenager lol
I know about connection. Does book say anythng about if it was a conscious decision, and by who, to cast Jurado and Pickens? I love that they are cast , it makes PG & BK extra personal for bloody sam fans. Its so beautiful their scenes together.