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I actually like the idea that there is a bit more “alternative” to Alternative Top 20 than it simply being #21 - #40 from official list.
“Alternative” to me means different way to look at things, off-kilter, left-field, not mainstream.
For example, Django Kill is not a movie I particulary like, but if we were discussing alt-spaghettis it is definitely one I would mention, if you know what I mean. Other examples include Requiem for a Gringo, Death Sentence, And God Sad To Cain etc.
Or “alternative” could mean different way of scoring and ranking (which in a way is what we have now, as Phil has explained).
Had to update this since I had a chance to see Keoma,( which in its own right I should have viewed a while ago but didn’t have a chance, and am still excited by Wild east’s release of California ( a film I wont get tired of, an this disc is a true masterpiece.) As well, Ive done a few rewatches.
1.Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
2.The Big Gundown (1966)
3.California (1977)
4.The Great Silence (1968)
5.The Hellbenders (1967)
6.Silver Saddle (1978)
7.Keoma (1976)
8.Death Sentence (1968)
9.Cemetery Without Crosses (1968)
10.The Dirty Outlaws (1967)
11. Four of the Apocalypse (1975)
12.The Strangers Gundown (1969)
13. Minnesota Clay (1964)
14.The Good, The Bad, The Ugly (1966)
15.Shoot the Living… Pray for the dead (1971)
16.Django (1966)
17.10,000 Dollars for a Massacre (1967)
18.Viva Django (1968)
19.The Ugly Ones (1966)
20.Day of Anger (1967)
Silver Saddle and Minnesota Clay both up in front of FaFDM and TGtB&tU! That’s a unique take, sir. Interesting, for sure. I mean, I disagree certainly, but it’s refreshing to see other titles cutting right into the usual suspects like that. We mostly go Dollars trilogy–OUaTitW–The Great Silence and, whilst that’s a tough opinion against which to argue since those films are so very good, it can inevitably sometimes feel a bit stale.
Silver Saddle ( like all the twilight spaghetti’s) has stuck with me and I enjoy it more each time I watch it. It could be I’m a sucker for Lucio Fulci ( one of my favorites) who’s films always expose the viewer to gore and obscenity. Unique and certainly one of a kind, Fulci ( for me rarely rehashed material, preferring each of his works to out due the last. Minnesota Clay is Corbucci’s little talked about gem.
Minnesota Clay is rather a fun watch, and features an aging gunslinger out to clear his name. From the scene where Clay breaks out of prison, to the shoot out between Clay and the Mexicans, to the final showdown, this film really scrams “Corbucci” at the top of it’s lungs.
Keoma is one of my favorite spaghetti western characters. Quick with a knife or gun, he is unpredictable and everyone in town fears him. ( except his father.) one of the things I picked up on was the relationship between Keoma and his father. Another was the “appration” of the women who saved him. the third was Woody Strodes character
"George" who"s own story is nearly as memorable as Keomas. theirs a lot here not offered in other spaghettis and this is Franco Neros best western.
I like the music but it was a shock the first time I watched Keoma. I think it grows on you the more you watch it. Can’t imagine the film without it. It helps to create the atmosphere.
I despise the music in Keoma and Mannaja. I’m not certain I’d have liked the movies otherwise anyway, but those songs definitely ruined the experiences for me.
sorry phil, couldn’t remember if I submitted what I think should be the " official top 20" list.
Here is the old list.
1.Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
2.The Big Gundown (1966)
3.California (1977)
4.The Great Silence (1968)
5.The Hellbenders (1967)
6.Silver Saddle (1978)
7.Keoma (1976)
8.Death Sentence (1968)
9.Cemetery Without Crosses (1968)
10.The Dirty Outlaws (1967)
11. Four of the Apocalypse (1975)
12.The Strangers Gundown (1969)
13. Minnesota Clay (1964)
14.The Good, The Bad, The Ugly (1966)
15.Shoot the Living… Pray for the dead (1971)
16.Django (1966)
17.Navajo Joe (1966)
18.Viva Django (1968)
19.The Ugly Ones (1966)
20.Day of Anger (1967)
New List
1.Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
2.The Big Gundown (1966)
3.California (1977)
4.Silver Saddle (1978)
5.The Great Silence (1968)
6.The Hellbenders (1967)
7.Keoma (1976)
8.Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
9.10,000 Dollars for a Massacre (1967)
10. Four of the Apocalypse (1975)
11.The Dirty Outlaws (1967).
12. And God Said to Cain (1970)
13. Cemetery Without Crosses (1969)
14. Minnesota Clay (1964)
15.The Good, The Bad, The Ugly (1966)
16.Shoot the Living… Pray for the dead (1971)
17.Django (1966)
18.Viva Django (1968)
19.The Ugly Ones (1966)
20.Day of Anger (1967)
Keep in mind I have to view these
the specialists (1969)
bullet for the general 1966
blindman 1971 ( remember not caring for this, but cant remember a whole lot of what went on. )
Run man Run (1968)
Vegeance (1968)
I have been using this great resource for the better part of a decade and in that time have viewed at least 100 SWs. I thought it time to participate.
I viewed my first one in a theater in Texas in 1972-- “They Call Me Trinity.” I laughed out loud and we stayed for the next showing. Then in the late '70s I caught “A Pistol for Ringo” on late-night tv and always hoped I could see it again. Like everybody else I was familiar with the Leone dollars trilogy, but came to seek out others of these great flicks in the last few years.
Keoma’s soundtrack fits the film rather well. Like all the “twilight” soundtracks , each is trippy, poppy, a bit unconventional, with synthesizers and other 70s pop/ soft rock instruments, and the vocal performances are done well. They are innovative and instantly recognizable, suit the films well, and are some of the most memorable of the genre.
I think it grows on you the more you watch it. Can’t imagine the film without it. It helps to create the atmosphere.