I will do the same for the Alternative Top 20.
Anymore updates for that, please get 'em in quick.
I’ve made changes, Ser Stanton! I edited my last list. I know that’s not generally encouraged and that you’d understandably rather we submitted new lists, but it’s only a few posts up and, given that you haven’t logged them yet, it just seemed neater to change that one, provided I let you know. You’ll no doubt note that my list has now moved beyond being merely “good looking”, and ascended to the status of “Pure, Unadulterated Spaghetti-Western Porn”.
Ok, I will take the changes. If one lets me know about his changes, like last.caress did, it is absolutely ok.
Btw every vote for Boot Hill is awarded with one free post in the forum. But only in the next 10 days. Good deal imho …
[quote=“Mickey13, post:2028, topic:190”]It’s time to remake my top, no big differences. Here it is:
- C’era una volta il West, Sergio Leone (1968)
- Il buono, il brutto e il cattivo, Sergio Leone (1966)
- Per un pugno di dollari, Sergio Leone (1964)
- La resa dei conti, Sergio Sollima (1966)
- Il grande silenzio, Sergio Corbucci (1968)
- Giù la testa, Sergio Leone (1971)
- Faccia a faccia, Sergio Sollima (1967)
- Django, Sergio Corbucci (1966)
- Per qualche dollaro in più, Sergio Leone (1965)
- Sentenza di morte, Mario Lanfranchi (1968)
- Prega il morto e ammazza il vivo, Giuseppe Vari (1971)
- Keoma, E. G. Castellari (1976)
- California, Michele Lupo (1977)
- Il mio nome e’Nessuno, Tonino Valerii (1973)
- Anda muchacho, spara!, Aldo Florio (1971)
- Vamos a matar, companeros!, Sergio Corbucci (1971)
- Il mercenario, Sergio Corbucci (1968)
- El Precio de un hombre, Eugenio Martin (1966)
- Blindman, Ferdinando Baldi (1971)
- Tepepa, Giulio Petroni (1968)[/quote]
My new one:
- Il buono, il brutto e il cattivo, Sergio Leone (1966)
- C’era una volta il West, Sergio Leone (1968)
- Per un pugno di dollari, Sergio Leone (1964)
- La resa dei conti, Sergio Sollima (1966)
- Il grande silenzio, Sergio Corbucci (1968)
- Giù la testa, Sergio Leone (1971)
- Faccia a faccia, Sergio Sollima (1967)
- Django, Sergio Corbucci (1966)
- Per qualche dollaro in più, Sergio Leone (1965)
- Sentenza di morte, Mario Lanfranchi (1968)
- Prega il morto e ammazza il vivo, Giuseppe Vari (1971)
- Una pistola per Ringo, Duccio Tessari (1965)
- California, Michele Lupo (1977)
- Il mio nome e’Nessuno, Tonino Valerii (1973)
- Anda muchacho, spara!, Aldo Florio (1971)
- Un minuto per pregare, un istante per morire, Franco Giraldi (1968)
- Il mercenario, Sergio Corbucci (1968)
- Vamos a matar, compañeros, Sergio Corbucci (1970)
- El Precio de un hombre, Eugenio Martin (1966)
- Blindman, Ferdinando Baldi (1971)
[i]1.The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
2. For a Few Dollars More
3. Once Upon A Time In The West
4 The Big Gundown
5. The Great Silence
6. Face to Face
7. A Fistfull of Dollars
8. Bandidos
9. The Mercenary
10. The Bounty Killer
11. Companeros
12. $10.000 For a Massacre
13. A bullet for the General
14. Death Rides a Horse
15. If You Meet Sartana, Pray for Your Death
16. Day of Anger
17. El Puro
18. Cemetery without Crosses
19. Duel in the Eclipse
20. Django
I’ll do a new one in the next 24 hours
Sort of pointless but just replace no 20…
[size=7pt]1. ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST
2. THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY
3. DUCK YOU SUCKER
4. VENGEANCE
5. GOD FORGIVES, I DON’T
6. FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE
7. KEOMA
8. KILL AND PRAY
9. FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE
10. TEPEPA
11. CALIFORNIA
12. NAVAJO JOE
13. BULLET FOR THE GENERAL
14. THE BOUNTY KILLER
15. THE MERCENARY
16. THE RUTHLESS FOUR
17. DEAD MEN RIDE
18. HOLE IN THE FOREHEAD
19. FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
20. W DJANGO (replaces NOBODY’S THE GREATEST)[/size]
new for the Stork Vulture:
- KEOMA
- The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
- The Return of Ringo
- A Fistful of Dollars
- Cemetery Without Crosses
- The Great Silence
- The Mercenary
- For a Few Dollars More
- Death Rides a Horse
- Run, Man, Run
- The Big Gundown
- Day of Anger
- Face to Face
- Once Upon a Time in the West
- Django
- Johnny Hamlet
- Companeros
- A Bullet for the General
- Fury of Johnny Kidd
- Arizona Colt
All I do is seem to post lists these days…
Okay, old one (from August 2013!):
[quote=“John Welles, post:2115, topic:190”]1. Once Upon a Time in the West
2. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
3. The Great Silence
4. For a Few Dollars More
5. The Mercenary
6. Face to Face
7. A Fistful of Dollars
8. Django Kill! If You Live, Shoot!
9. Cemetery without Crosses
10. Django
11. Duck, You Sucker!
12. Run Man, Run
13. Return of Ringo
14. The Price of Power
15. Death Rides a Horse
16. Keoma, the Avenger
17. A Pistol for Ringo
18. The Forgotten Pistolero
19. Johnny Yuma
20. Minnesota Clay[/quote]
New One:
- Once Upon a Time in the West
- The Good the Bad and the Ugly
- The Great Silence
- The Big Gundown
- For a Few Dollars More
- Face to Face
- The Mercenary
- Cemetery without Crosses
- Django Kill! If You Live, Shoot!
- Django
- Duck, You Sucker!
- Run Man, Run
- A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die
- A Bullet for the General
- $10,000 Blood Money
- A Fistful of Dollars
- Return of Ringo
- A Pistol for Ringo
- Johnny Yuma
- Minnesota Clay
The biggest drop is A Fistful of Dollars (9 places) and a twinge of regret that I couldn’t find room for Minnesota Clay in there somewhere… Four of the Apocalypse also almost made it in, on the basis of Thomas Milian’s performance (the only truly frightening Spaghetti Western villain). Rather surprised in retrospect that Valerii, whom I still like, had both of his films unconsciously dropped (sorry, but Keoma’s probably gone for good now).
EDIT: Do’h! I listed A Fistful of Dollars twice (thanks to Stanton for pointing it out), so Minnesota Clay works it’s way in…
My Top 5 Favourite John Welles Lists List:
- New (Official Top-20)[/url]
- Ten Best Films Seen for the First Time This Year (don’t you just love new ways to list films?)
- Not that I’ve seen the entirety of (David) Fincher’s filmography, I can rank his ten films
- A ranking of the best films I’ve seen in the cinema in 2014
- Extras announced for Arrow’s Day of Anger[url]http://forum.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/topic,190.msg172242.html#msg172242
[quote=“chuck connors brother, post:2327, topic:190”]Sort of pointless but just replace no 20…
- W DJANGO (replaces NOBODY’S THE GREATEST)[/size][/quote]
Very “pointfull” if you ask me 
[quote=“John Welles, post:2329, topic:190”]New One:
16. A Fistful of Dollars
17. Return of Ringo
18. A Fistful of Dollars
The biggest drop is A Fistful of Dollars (9 places) and a twinge of regret that I couldn’t find room for Minnesota Clay in there somewhere… Four of the Apocalypse also almost made it in, on the basis of Thomas Milian’s performance (the only truly frightening Spaghetti Western villain). Rather surprised in retrospect that Valerii, whom I still like, had both of his films unconsciously dropped (sorry, but Keoma’s probably gone for good now).[/quote]
Well, you still have a chance for one of them …
Or choose instead Boot Hill. Remember the free post you can earn …
Very "pointfull" if you ask me
Ha, maybe if W Django has more than 1 point now
It has, and funnily both have now 17 points, but because W Django has 3 votes now, both turn places in the list.
Ok, then, now, the newly updated forum’s top 20 list:
Like last year only films are included with a minimum of 2 votes. Which reduces the 201 named Spags to 141.
Basically the same old bullshit as last year:
1 The Good, the Bad, the Ugly Leone, Sergio 3116
2 Once Upon a Time in the West Leone, Sergio 2663
3 For a Few Dollars More Leone, Sergio 2551
4 The Great Silence Corbucci, Sergio 2001
5 A Fistful of Dollars Leone, Sergio 1727
6 Django Corbucci, Sergio 1650
7 The Big Gundown Sollima, Sergio 1542
8 The Mercenary Corbucci, Sergio 1156
9 Death Rides a Horse / Man to Man Petroni, Giulio 1022
10 Face to Face Sollima, Sergio 1011
11 Companeros Corbucci, Sergio 978
12 Duck, You Sucker! Leone, Sergio 935
13 A Bullet for the General Damiani, Damiano 882
14 Day of Anger Valerii, Tonino 678
15 Keoma Castellari, Enzo G. 608
16 Cemetery Without Crosses Hossein, Robert 599
17 My Name is Nobody Leone, Sergio/Valerii, T. 538
18 The Return of Ringo Tessari, Duccio 480
19 Django Kill…If You Live, Shoot! Questi, Giulio 463
20 Run Man, Run Sollima, Sergio 398
21 If You Meet Sartana Pray for Your Death Parolini, Gianfranco 355
22 Blindman Baldi, Ferdinando 325
23 Sabata Parolini, Gianfranco 275
24 10,000 Dollars Blood Money Girolami, Romolo 252
25 Navajo Joe Corbucci, Sergio 247
26 Mannaja / A Man Called Blade Martino, Sergio 244
27 And God Said to Cain Margheriti, Antonio 234
28 Tepepa Petroni, Giulio 215
29 Light the Fuse…Sartana is Coming Carnimeo, Giuliano 205
30 A Pistol for Ringo Tessari, Duccio 197
31 Massacre Time Fulci, Lucio 173
32 God Forgives…I Don’t Colizzi, Giuseppe 161
33 Bandidos Dallamano, Massimo 154
34 El Puro Mulargia, Edoardo 146
35 Kill and Pray / Requiescant Lizzani, Carlo 140
36 The Grand Duel Santi, Giancarlo 138
37 California Lupo, Michele 136
38 Four of the Apocalypse Fulci, Lucio 130
39 Matalo! Canevari, Cesare 130
40 Ace High / 4 for an Ave Maria Colizzi, Giuseppe 128
41 Johnny Hamlet Castellari, Enzo G. 126
42 Trinity is Still My Name Barboni, Enzo 120
43 The Bounty Killer Martin, Eugenio 113
44 The Forgotten Pistolero Baldi, Ferdinando 112
45 Death Sentence Lanfranchi, Mario 111
46 The Specialists Corbucci, Sergio 101
47 Django the Bastard Garrone, Sergio 99
48 Shoot the Living and Pray for the Dead Vari, Giuseppe 94
49 They Call Him Cemetery Carnimeo, Giuliano 93
50 They Call me Trinity Barboni, Enzo 91
51 A Stranger in Town Vanzi, Luigi 91
52 Vengeance Margheriti, Antonio 90
53 A Bullet for Sandoval Buchs, Julio 89
54 Yankee Brass, Tinto 89
55 Arizona Colt Lupo, Michele 82
55 The Hellbenders Corbucci, Sergio 82
57 Cut Throats Nine Marchent, Joaquin Luis Rom. 77
58 For 100 000 Dollars per Killing Fago, Giovanni 75
59 Adios Sabata Parolini, Gianfranco 74
60 I Want Him Dead Bianchini, Paolo 72
60 Texas Adios Baldi, Ferdinando 72
62 Django, Prepare a Coffin Baldi, Ferdinando 71
63 Have a Good Funeral, My Friend…Sartana Will Pay Carnimeo, Giuliano 71
64 The Ruthless Four / Each One for His Own Capitani, Giorgio 68
65 I am Sartana, Your Angel of Death Carnimeo, Giuliano 66
66 Johnny Yuma Girolami, Romolo 59
67 Dead Men Ride Florio, Aldo 58
68 Red Sun Young, Terence 57
68 The Moment to Kill Carnimeo, Giuliano 57
70 Duel in the Eclipse / Requiem for a Gringo Merino, José Luis 56
71 Today it’s Me…Tomorrow You Cervi, Tonino 50
72 The Silent Stranger Vanzi, Luigi 49
73 One Silver Dollar Ferroni, Giorgio 46
74 A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die Giraldi, Franco 45
75 No Room to Die / A Long File of Crosses Garrone, Sergio 43
76 Fighting Fists of Shanghai Joe Caiano, Mario 42
76 A Hole in the Forehead Vari, Guiseppe 42
78 The Dirty Outlaws / El desperado Rossetti, Franco 40
79 Cost of Dying / Taste of Death Merolle, Sergio 36
80 Five Man Army Taylor, Don 36
81 Boot Hill Colizzi, Giuseppe 35
82 Long Days of Vengeance Vancini, Florestano 34
83 One after Another Nostro, Nick 34
84 Shoot, Gringo…Shoot! Corbucci, Bruno 33
85 Ben and Charlie Lupo, Michele 32
86 Black Jack Baldanello, Gianfranco 31
87 Garringo Marchent, Rafael Romero 30
88 Long Live Your Death Tessari, Duccio 29
89 The Stranger Returns Vanzi, Luigi 28
90 Taste of Violence Hossein, Robert 28
91 They Call Me Hallelujah / Heads I Kill You, Tails You Die Carnimeo, Giuliano 27
92 Night of the Serpent Petroni, Giulio 27
93 The Price of Death Palli, Enzo Gicca 26
94 Blood at Sundown / 1 000 Dollars on the Black Cardone, Alberto 25
95 Pistoleros Caltabiano, Alfio 25
96 Death Played the Flute Panaccio, Angelo 25
97 The Last Killer Vari, Giuseppe 24
98 Cowards Don’t Pray Siciliano, Mario 24
99 Viva Cangaceiro Fago, Giovanni 24
100 I am Sartana, Trade Your Guns for a Coffin / A Fistful of Lead Carnimeo, Giuliano 23
101 Revenge for Revenge Colucci, Mario 23
102 A Man Called Sledge Morrow, Vic 22
103 The Hills Run Red / A River of Dollars Lizzani, Carlo 21
104 A Barrel Full of Dollars Fidani, Demofilo 20
105 Dead Men Don’t Make Shadows Fidani, Demofilo 20
106 Beyond the Law Stegani Giorgio C. 20
107 Ringo from Nebraska Bava, Mario / Roman, Antonio 19
107 Apache Woman Mariuzzo, Giorgio 19
109 Kill Them All and Come Back Alone Castellari, Enzo G. 18
110 A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die Valerii, Tonino 18
110 The Return of Sabata Parolini, Gianfranco 18
112 God Made Them… I Kill Them / God Forgives … His Life is Mine Bianchini, Paolo 18
112 Bullets Don’t Argue Caiano, Mario 18
114 Minnesota Clay Corbucci, Sergio 17
115 Sonny and Jed Corbucci, Sergio 17
116 W Django Mulargia, Eduardo 17
117 A Genius, Two Partners and a Dupe / Nobody’s the Greatest Damiani, Damiano 17
118 John the Bastard Crispino, Armando 16
119 Seven Guns for the MacGregors Giraldi, Franco 16
120 Man, Pride, Vengeance Bazzoni, Luigi 14
121 Life is Tough, Eh Providence? Petroni, Giulio 14
122 The Fury of Johnny Kid Puccini, Gianni 13
123 Death Walks in Laredo Pero, Enzi 13
124 Shotgun Mauri, Roberto 11
125 A Pistol for 100 Coffins Lenzi, Umberto 10
125 The Greatest Robbery in the West Lucidi, Maurizio 10
125 For the Taste of Killing Valerii, Tonino 10
128 The Unholy Four / Chuck Mool Barboni, Enzo 9
129 The Price of Power Valerii, Tonino 8
130 Viva Maria Malle, Louis 7
131 Seven Dollars on the Red Cardone, Alberto 6
132 Trinity Sees Red / Revenge of Trinity Camus, Mario 5
132 And for a Roof a Sky Full of Stars Petroni, Giulio 5
132 Hate Thy Neighbour Baldi, Ferdinando 5
132 Sartana Does Not Forgive Balcazar, Alfonso 5
136 Tequila Joe Dell’Aquila, Vincenzo 4
136 It Can Be Done, Amigo! Lucidi, Maurizio 4
136 The Belle Star Story Wertmüller, Lina 4
139 Ringo and his Golden Pistol Corbucci, Sergio 3
139 The Beast Costa, Mario 3
141 Train for Durango Caiano, Mario 2
With now 153 lists it’s the first time that none of the top 20 switched their ranks, actually none from the first 23.
The last update was made a year back on page 108:
http://forum.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/topic,190.2140.html
10,000 Dollars Blood Money climbed a few ranks, as did El puro and Requiescant. And The Bounty Killer, which is back in the top 50. Also new is The Call Me Trinity on # 50, and the two which fell for them from grace and left the 50 are Vengeance and A Bullet for Sandoval.
Sterling work as ever Stanton - I feel the Top 30 or so are pretty much set in the stone at this point… Although the point difference between Death Rides a Horse (#9) and Face to Face (#10) is only 11 points!
So if I make a list, Cipolla Colt won’t appear in the complete list at position… um 107? This is bullshit. >:(
Yes, like I said, same old bullshit as last year …
Well, the idea is that with 150 lists, the list gets too crowded, and if a film gets only one vote it does not really “deserve” to appear here. But if the members of this forum wish to see the complete list, I will do it.
The list is anyway a bit meaningless in the lower ranks, or let’s say less useful. And the basic idea was to get a top 20, or meanwhile also a top 50, which has some value. Kicking out the orphans does eliminate partly the coincidence of being included by happenstance. With 2 votes there are at least 2 nuts who like Cipolla colt, and 2 are a crowd to some.
But in the case of Cipolla Colt one must consider an old saying: Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action.
Top work Brother Stanton.
I think you’ll find though that El Puro’s higher up than that; top 20 at least. Have another check, sir.
(Go on, just stick it up there! Who’s going to know? I won’t tell anyone! 
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