The Magnificent Seven (Antoine Fuqua, 2016)

I think the original True Grit got a lot of attention after success of a remake. Still, True Grit (1969) has around 33k votes on imdb (usually very good indicator of popularity), while M7 has 63,5k, it’s twice as popular. Rio Bravo for example has 41k, while Winchester '73 has only 12k.

Indeed. FWIW, I only looked at True Grit (1969) after I’d seen and enjoyed True Grit (2010), not being a John Wayne fan. I liked it though (I didn’t rate it as highly as the Coen’s effort, however), and I’ve got a couple of John Wayne movies tucked into the collection now.

Of course, but that does of mean it had become obscure before the remake.

A remake of GBU with e.g. Di Caprio and Brad Pitt would get GBU also a lot of extra attention from people who never watched it before.

I am horrified just thinking about that ! :smile:

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AAARGHHHHHHHHHHH

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Wasn’t John Wayne’s performance in True Grit outstanding? Won him his only Oscar. I prefer the 1969 film to the 2010 version, not least because Wayne’s Rooster Cogburn speaks a language I’m somewhat familiar with, whereas Jeff Bridges’s Cogburn employs a verbal mode of expression approximating unintelligible mumbling and grunting. Nah, just kidding, both are fine movies in their own right. Moreover, I wouldn’t necessarily label the Ethan and Joel Coen version a remake of Henry Hathaway’s film since both are based on Charles Portis’s novel and therefore, as filmic adaptations, offer two different interpretations of a literary source. No one would call Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings a remake of Ralph Bakshi’s animated film from 1978.

Hope GBU gets remade in someones dream and stays there :grin:

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New trailers

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This trailer looks more promsing then the first, but I sure hope the music/soundtrack is not all contemporary hip hop/new wave music. As everyone on this database already know’s, most american and spaghetti western’s have timeless soundtracks that never get old, and I think most of modern cinam lack’s truly timeless soundtrack’s. For example, I could not imagine watching The Wild Bunch ( or any western for that matter) while listeining to music that’s meant to be played a disco club, or dance club. Any note, I think the cast looks good, and the director has been around the block a few times, so Im seeing this the night it comes out. The last two western soundtracks i really enjoyed were the hateful eight ( mainly because of Enno Morricone,) and Unforgiven of course.

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I am mostly glad Tom Cruise did not join in.
I am still wondering why they call it a remake. What I see is another part in the franchise :smile:

It looks pretty good. Let’s hope the audience will pick this up so there is more interest in western movies.

I haven’t seen a western in the movie theatre since Unforgiven. There are some westerns I have not seen since then (i,e, Jane got a gun; the missing; Slow west; The Salvation) and which I still have to watch. Others like The Lone Ranger and a million ways to die in the west were horrible which made me fearful for other westerns.

First off, has anyone else seen this? The theater last night had about fifteen people or so in it, at 7 and I’m not sure if the 10 one was more packed or not. I won’t spoil anything, just highlight a few things I liked and a few I didn’t. First off, Peter Sarsgaard gives a wonderful performance, as a rich, unforgiving villain. He plays the part almost too well. Secondly, Washington is for sure fit for a cowboy, in looks, style, and attitude. Any fan of the director’s previous work should check this out. On another note, this film is clearly not a film made by Leone, Ford, Peckinpah, or Sturges so do not expect to see " the greatest western ever" or anything like that. Also fans of who do not care for Fiqua’s previous work will probably find this remake unispiring.

Haven’t seen it. Reviewed here (in Oslo) yesterday: «The Useful Seven. Good old days western with a solid cast and a archetypical story told several hundred times before.” 4 out of 6 points from that reviewer.

Sounds like solid entertainment but nothing new under the sun.
Nothing wrong with a good old days western, of course

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Yes, unfortunately Fuqua is a director from whom I don’t expect anything. Mag7 isn’t a great film either, but I doubt that the new one will beat it.
My expectation are low, but at least I hope it wón’t be such a catastrophe like 3:10 to Yuma.

Reminds me that the True Grit remake wasn’t a gas either.

Yep, agree with all that. Indeed, the few reviews I’ve read so far seem to be bearing this out. An adequate picture; which is disappointing for me because I naively allowed my expectations to lift a little upon seeing the undeniably exciting ensemble cast.

See, I thought the Coens’ True Grit was fantastic. If The Magnificent Seven compares to that picture I’ll be delighted (and more than a little astounded).

Maybe a second look will help to improve True Grit for me, but so far it is far away from their No Country masterstroke.

Hmm, a second watch of 3:10 to Yuma made that one only worse than it already was.

I didn’t care for the original, and I think the remake will be better (judging from the trailers). Fuqua is a decent action director and the cast is solid.

Trailers look good, but they might create a false impression. The original isn’t one of my favorites either - an okay movie, but no more than that - but it did have a great cast. It needed a little more action, and maybe this new version has it. Fuqua is indeed a good action director, some of the action in King Arthur is excellent.

Yeah, but Olympus Has Fallen is horrible. All in all Fuqua I don’t think that Fuqua is good with Action.

And the trailer does not look promising, but like the usual mainstream wishy-washy mediocre PG13 Hollywood stuff.

But, maybe I watch it though, and maybe it might surprise me, cause trailers always lie.

Didn’t realize he made that turkey, but yes, horrible.

His movies aren’t great, but there usually are great things in them. To me King Arthur is his best movie, but there are also good things in Training Day, Tears of the Sun and Brooklyn’s Finest. All these movies have at the same time serious flaws.

I haven’t watched The Equalizer yet, heard some good things about it.