The Last Western You Watched?

Yes, he shouts “Can you hear this?” and in Italian “Cosi sia” which means Amen or something like it. The dialogues in English are pretty silly and kill a bit Corbucci’s dark humor.

Yes, the English dubbing is horrible!

Gabino Barrera (1965).

Mexican chap sets himself up in the U.S but gets home sick, so goes back to Mexico to search for a home. Falls in love with a woman who is very loose in her defintion of love. He gets shafted by her and sort of then treats women like he was treated. Story then jumps and then he gets into the revolution lark, but soon goes back to women though. Bit to much bursts of singing by the main character at times, and you start thinking is this a musical. Ok time filler, with an interesting ending.

Arrow In The Dust, 1954, Sterling Hayden… should be ‘arrows’, plural. The Apaches ride North to join the Pawnees… and somebody shoots 2 bound-together arrows at Hayden and cavalry-scout, Tom Tully, as if to say: “our tribes have joined forces”. -Which never happened. But that’s why I love certain westerns that create their own universe. The locale is also supposed to be Oregon, which means high timberlands… not redrock sandstone and barren horizons, but I can overlook that as-well, here. The script is weak, but the action is great. -Highlighted by Hayden’s guys pushing a flaming-wagon off a cliff as pursuing Indians are climbing-up, culminating in flaming pursuers falling abyssward. The shots have the look of one take… The pursuers keep coming, and Hayden learns that one-of-the-wagons, which Lee Van Cleef’s guys were helping to safeguard, is loaded with stolen guns and alcohol meant for Indian-nefariousness… so it gets pushed-off the cliff too. Exploding spectacularly.

The film is basically average, but I look at it from the 1954 date-scene “let’s go to the theater” perspective. -Definitely worth taking a date to back then.

Sartana’s here… trade your Pistol for a Coffin! - Watched the Wild East disc this evening, like a whole new experience watching it compared to the awful Fistful of Lead BCI DVD.

[size=12pt]The Legend of the Lone Ranger[/size] (1981) William A. Fraker

Actually not a bad flick, to be honest it was quite a surprise, imagine a film like Tex e il signore degli abissi, but more cheesy and fun. Christhoper Lloyd is great as the bad guy, remsembling both Major Jackson from Django, and Mark Damon character from Requiescant, a good actor, other big names like Jason Robards, Richard Farnsworth in small parts, even Lincol Tate, best known as Acquasanta Joe . Some scenes are pretty violents like the one of the ambush, other are fun and others very well done, like the horse taming one, and in some moments very "spaghetian " in style .
Great soundtrack from John Barry, and the William tell overture fits just great in the film.

A failed project I guess, but still worth a look, for those like me who like Cowboys and Indians films.

“Hi yo, Silver, away.”

P.S. i just don’t know who the hell was the actor who played The Lone Ranger

[quote=“Mickey13, post:9518, topic:141”]Django (1966) - a great astonishment.
It was the first time I watched it in Italian and I love it. Of course I’ve watched it a few times with English dubbing, but something was missing for me. Now everything is perfect. Only now did I realize how much that awful fucking English dubbing ruins this movie! Actually everything is better in Italian version - particularly dialogues.
Thank you Blue Underground for the great restoration. Now it is on my Top 10, even though I never supposed that I will like it so much. 8)[/quote]
how you like it it has many kills, strange… ???

[url]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/chisum1970warnerbros.jpg/[/url] [size=12pt]CHISUM[/size] (1970, Andrew V. Maclaglen)

An odd western, often misunderstood, probably even by those who were responsible for it. It has been criticized for historic inaccuracies and for being right-wing. The Time Out film guide even calls it “a western equivalent of John Wayne’s revisionist Vietnam movie The Green Berets, articulating his right-wing ethos”

In reality, the movie got most historic facts right (at least more or less) and it seems a bit odd to label a movie in which a businessman is the villain as right-wing. Its biggest mistake probably is that it wants to tell a formulaic western story in the context of a historic conflict, the Lincoln County War. John Wayne is the man from the title, Chisum, the cattle baron whose conflict with monopolistic businessman Murphy lies at the base of the range war which would eventually made a star out of William H. Bonney, also known as Billy the Kid.

Chisum is portrayed as the traditional westerner, a man who adheres to the land and stands up for the small farmers and the shopkeepers from Lincoln, who are ousted out by the power hungry capitalist. Of course this is a bit naïve, the Lincoln County war was not a conflict between a good cattle baron and a bad capitalist. Chisum was a businessman himself and his approach to the land was expansionist and monopolistic as well.

What is most astonishing, is that with its glorification of the old pioneer spirit and the tradition of the Old West, the message of the movie is remarkably close to the ideas expressed in some of Peckinpah’s westerns of the period such as The Wild Bunch and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (which deals with the same conflict, but is set in its aftermath). Chisum represents the same code of honour of the Old West, which was, in both Wayne’s and Peckinpah’s eyes, superior to the ruthless ideology of advancing capitalism. But Wayne’s sympathy lies with those who respect the law, Peckinpah’s sympathy with the outlaws. This is expressed by Pat Garret in the movie, in a conversation with Chisum’s niece, who has an eye on William Bonney: “Billy wants revenge, Mr. Chisum wants justice.”

As a traditional western, Chisum is only partially successful. The Duke remains John Wayne all the way, and never becomes John Chisum. There’s more than enough action for two movies, but there are also a couple of slow stretches and moments of awkward dialogue. I liked some of the supporting actors, notably Pete Deuel as Billy and Christopher George as a grim bounty hunter who’s after the damn Kid who crippled him.

I’ve only seen it once, decades ago. It had 2 stumbling-blocks for me: the-one-name-title… and my perceived Andy McLaglen’s hero-worship of Wayne. That combo reanimated visions of the virtually unwatchable McClintock!. A simple thing like changing the title… I dunno. A lot of Wayne’s later projects could’ve conceivably been tagged with his character-name as the title. I may’ve accepted Chisum more fondly if it was called Lincoln County, etc.

Never liked old western movies. They are naive, and very few create a true western atmosphere. :-\

In that case I wouldn’t rewath this one: Like I said John play Wayne and he’s the hero.
The one-name title never bothered me. I don’t get that, what’s wrong with Chisum, Django, Shango, Shalako, Sabata, etc. ?

McLintock is indeed awful.

[quote=“scherpschutter, post:9531, topic:141”]In that case I wouldn’t rewath this one: Like I said John play Wayne and he’s the hero.
The one-name title never bothered me. I don’t get that, what’s wrong with Chisum, Django, Shango, Shalako, Sabata, etc. ?

McLintock is indeed awful.[/quote]

i remember watching Chisum once and i turned it off after some ten minutes
but what’s awful about title McClintock!

[quote=“tomas, post:9532, topic:141”]i remember watching Chisum once and i turned it off after some ten minutes
but what’s awful about title McClintock![/quote]

It’s supposed to be a comedy and it’s not funny

You’re missing out on a lot if you refuse to watch The Naked Spur, Ride Lonesome or Ride the High Country, all truely great “old” American Westerns.

‘major dundee’ total bore 0/5
patt garret and billy the kid 2/5

Also, i’d add these! shane, vera cruz, winchester’73, gunfighter, last train from gun hill, the bravados there’s a lot more of course!

The Spoilers - Ray Enright 1943

The 5th of six adaptations of the novel by Rex Beach, which must have been a quite popular book in the first half of the last century.
Easily the best western John Wayner from his unkmown phase between Stagecoach and Fort Apache. Entertaining stuff with Marlene Dietrich, Randolph Scott (as the baddie), Harry Carey and Richard Barthelmess. It ends with a bloody fistfight between Wayne and Scott. 6,5/10

Sorry guys, I was a bit unfair. Yeah, I forgot about Ride The High Country, I watched it about half a year ago and I remember I liked it very much (actually I was a bit surprised). As regards Vera Cruz, it was good, I couldn’t hold my breath for it though. I enjoyed One Eyed Jacks by Marlon Brando, also a very good one. I don’t like such westerns like Rio Bravo (I thought it was just OK), High Noon (another OK film - well, good for one viewing, but I’d never call it a masterpiece) and Bonanza ;D (My gash - this one really makes me laugh - particularly during fistfights and shootouts). Sorry in advance all those who admire those movies, but I prefer western flicks made after 1964. I mean Jeremiah Johnson, Pat Garrett, Butch Cassidy, The Pale Rider and so on.

[quote=“tomas, post:9532, topic:141”]what’s awful about title McClintock![/quote]John Wayne is in it! ;D

I’m a member of that club also :wink: