[quote=“Bill san Antonio, post:7275, topic:141”]Güney: Ac Kurtlar[url]http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Aç_kurtlar[/url]
-beautiful and dark turkish film clearly inspired by The Great Silence.[/quote]
Does it have eng subs or audio? Looks quite interesting.
My copy has english subtitles, and yes it’s worth a look.
I found it at cinemageddon but no one is seeding 
Riding Shotgun, a routine B-Western starring Randolph Scott – in one of several second-tier Westerns he made with director Andre De Toth – as a gunfighter-cum-stagecoach guard seeking revenge on a murderous stick-up gang.
Although made in 1954, in most respects this could pass for a film 10 years older than that, with square-jawed Scott running through the rugged, righteous routine he could perform in his sleep (and sometimes gave the impression that’s just what he was doing).
Only the film’s scathing depiction of a knee-jerk, hypocritical and judgemental township stands out, when the high regard they hold for Scott turns quickly to suspicion and hang-him-high hatred when he’s implicated in a hold-up. His character’s fight to clear his name resembles the predicament faced by Giuliano Gemma in some of his early Westerns.
Oh, and Charles Bronson sneers effectively in a villainous supporting role.
Yes, Lee Marvin effectivly steals the entire movie.
Pancho Villa
Telly Savalas stars as… well… Pancho Villa. Found the ending a bit too abruptly if you ask me.
Well worth looking up. Never saw the whole film but Yilmaz Güney is really a badass! Especially in his first scene.
His appearance is too short to steal the film.
In fact nobody stole a film from Wayne after Fort Apache (which was Fonda’s film anyway).
Not even Mitchum and Dino at his best, both in more complex roles than Wayne’s in these films.
I think Wayne had from the 50s on such a natural presence and aura that he could easily stand even besides much better actors.
[quote=“Stanton, post:7288, topic:141”]His appearance is too short to steal the film.
In fact nobody stole a film from Wayne after Fort Apache (which was Fonda’s film anyway).
Not even Mitchum and Dino at his best, both in more complex roles than Wayne’s in these films.
I think Wayne had from the 50s on such a natural presence and aura that he could easily stand even besides much better actors.[/quote]
Nobody Stole a film from John Wayne cause all those films were made in a way for him to shine and only him, it’s a like a cycling team you have the leader and the other who work for him. And sometimes was a one man show like in Green Berets (OK bad exemple)
I think Richard Widmark and Laurence Harvey came pretty damn close in The Alamo. But only pretty damn Close
[quote=“Stanton, post:7288, topic:141”]His appearance is too short to steal the film.
In fact nobody stole a film from Wayne after Fort Apache (which was Fonda’s film anyway).
Not even Mitchum and Dino at his best, both in more complex roles than Wayne’s in these films.
I think Wayne had from the 50s on such a natural presence and aura that he could easily stand even besides much better actors.[/quote]
I disagree. When Wayne was good, like in Stagecoach or She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, he was untouchable, but in films like in The Comancheroes, where Marvin in his scenes acted Wayne out of the film (and everyone here who has seen the movie comments on his role) or El Dorado (Robert Mitchum this time) he was slightly overshadowed. Never completely, but it isn’t his acting in these films that lingers in your mind. Of course this has happened to most of the great actors at least a few times and this in no way makes Wayne any less good than he is.
But I think that Wayne was especially in Comancheros and El Dorado at his best. The miracle of the ensemble films Rio Bravo and El Dorado is that all the different leads complement one another. In El Dorado Arthur Hunnicut and James Caan are also very, very good.
While in Rio Lobo Wayne looks tired and the 2 youngsters at his side are long forgotten. Only Jack Elam has a great role.
For Marvin: most had mainly complained that his role was too short, as he indeed was very good and should have made it until the end.
The wonderful The Man who shot Liberty Valance is also a Jimmy Stewart Film .
Posse from Hell (1961)
A gang of four bandits (one is Lee Van Cleef) terrorize a little town, robbing the bank and capture a girl. After killing the Sheriff and other citizens they are leaving the town. Audie Murphy is the deputy with a troubled past who chases the outlaws together with a group of inconsistent people. One of them is a bank employee who is forced to join the posse played by John Saxon.
It remindes me somehow on the Budd Boetticher/Randolph Scott Westerns.Entertaining enough with several violent scenes and interesting characters. 
This is just my opinion…but, I have always felt that another actor, such as Randolph Scott or Gary Cooper (or someone else of that type) could have played Wayne’s roles in RIO BRAVO and EL DORADO and the results would have been the same. Those are just great films for many other reasons besides Wayne’s presence. I think Martin, Brennan, and Dickinson (and the rest of the cast, for that matter) are (along with Hawks’ direction) what make RIO BRAVO a great film. Wayne is good in his role, but another actor could have done just as well.
I feel the same about EL DORADO…Mitchum, Caan, and Hunnicut are the real reasons to watch that one.
I’m glad Paco brought up THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE. I think Stewart easily outshines Wayne in that film.
But, I guess I should make it clear that John Wayne is not one of my favorite “screen presences” (I don’t want to use the word “actor”!). He is in several good films, that is certain; but, I feel that those films would have been just as good if they had starred another actor.
That said, there are a few films, however, where I think this wouldn’t hold true. For example, if another actor had starred in THE COWBOYS or THE SHOOTIST, I don’t think they would have been as good.
Wayne is intensely overrated…especially here in America.
If you tell someone here in the States that you like Westerns…they immediately think that you are a John Wayne fan. And that really pisses me off.
There is so much more to the Western genre than John Wayne.
My yearly anti-Wayne rant is over…now back to the topic… 
The last Westerns I watched were TEQUILA JOE and A HOLE IN THE FOREHEAD (aka A HOLE BETWEEN THE EYES) via the new Wild East disc. I have always enjoyed the latter film a great deal (perhaps for the musical score more than anything else) and TEQUILA JOE is an enjoyable lower-tier SW that somehow seems to get better each time I see it.
[quote=“Chris_Casey, post:7295, topic:141”]Wayne is intensely overrated…especially here in America.
If you tell someone here in the States that you like Westerns…they immediately think that you are a John Wayne fan. And that really pisses me off.
There is so much more to the Western genre than John Wayne.[/quote]
That’s a pity cause this genre has much to offer . Maybe I’m wrong but I think in Europe its more Clint Eastwood and Westerns as John Wayne and Westerns. The characters and the Westerns of Clint are more modern 8)
I think that in the last John Wayne Western starting from The Cowboys, he tried to modernized his images and his films (at least the Train Robbers got some SW influences IMO) even tried to do the Dirty Harry stuff in McQ, It’s not by chance that’s those are my favourite westerns with John Wayne the last ones, the problem was that he was already too old and with a decaying wealth, and with a too strong image from the past (come on only The Duke coulf come out with something like The Green Berets) to be believeble at the time.
I never forget that story were John Ford (the Almirant) used to call the actors (and other persons working on the set) by the ranks thay had during military service in WWII, just to embarrass John Wayne
You may all know this of me but I always liked Wayne. Ofcourse he had pretty much zilch for range, I always thought he had some talent. Even in Red River his image is pretty different. And in the Searchers, he actually shoots a lot of people in the back. But I suppose it is “unfair” to completely identify Wayne with Westerns. However, his image is undeniable and understadable.
Still watching Deadwood and just finished the first season. I had initially been turned off by all the cursing but once you get past that it is really a well done series. Ian McShane is fantastic!
Apocalypse Joe
Which I enjoyed more than I did first time around. It’s still not my favourite Steffen vehicle but it does allow a ludicrous number of shooting set pieces for Tony to leap through which are fun. A few missed opportunities in my opinion which keep it from being much better though.