The Last Western You Watched? ver.2.0


(scherpschutter) #161

Pale Rider is great in my opinion, but others weren’t too positive about the movie, Joe Kidd is a minor genre movie. An okay watch, but nothing special. Should’ve been a lotter better with that cast and director


(Stanton) #162

Yes, Joe Kidd is a bit underwhelming for both, Eastwood and John Sturges. Ok for a watch though. 4/10

Josey Wales is one which grew on me through the decades. 8/10

And Pale Rider is somewhere between those 2. Characters are not interesting, and the story is a bit too basic. 6/10

Other Eastwoods:

Hang em Low 6/10
Two Mules for Sister Sara 6/10
High Plains’s Drifter 6/10
Unforgiven 8,5/10

Sad that Clint did not make the one or another western more in his long, long career.


(Asa) #163

Ooh, a Clint-rankin’ western roundup! Yee-haaa!

  1. The Good, the Bad & the Ugly
  2. Unforgiven
  3. For a Few Dollars More
  4. High Plains Drifter
  5. A Fistful of Dollars
  6. The Outlaw Josey Wales
  7. Pale Rider
  8. Two Mules For Sister Sara
  9. Hang 'em High
  10. Joe Kidd
  11. Paint Your Wagon

Like Scherp, I had a considerable preference at one time for Pale Rider over Josey Wales but, whilst I maintain that Pale Rider is an entertaining pic (certainly more immediately rewarding than Josey Wales anyway) my appreciation for Josey Wales has deepened as I’ve got older to a point where I think I prefer it now, ever-so-slightly. It’s close between those two, anyway.


(ENNIOO) #164

High Plains Drifter is my favourite Eastwood directed western.


(scherpschutter) #165

Okay then, my list:

  1. The Good, the Bad & the Ugly 10/10
  2. For a Few Dollars More
  3. Pale Rider
  4. A Fistful of Dollars
  5. High Plains Drifter
  6. The Outlaw Josey Wales
  7. Unforgiven
  8. Hang 'em High
  9. Two Mules for Sister Sara
  10. Joe Kidd 6/10

I haven’t listed Paint Your Wagon. Haven’t seen it in 45 years and don’t remember that much about it (that song about a wandering star mostly)

All other movies between 6/10 (watchable) and 10/10 (magnificent)


(Stanton) #166

The Leones are Leone films in which Eastwood appears as an actor, and Paint Your Wagon is another non-Eastwood film with Eastwood.
But the others (all produced by himself) are Eastwood films, no matter he directed them or not.
I think this is even true for the 2 Mules, while otherwise the films directed by Don Siegel are still Siegel films. (But also key Eastwood film to a certain kind)

But then, why not:

  1. The Good, the Bad & the Ugly

  2. A Fistful of Dollars

  3. For a Few Dollars More

  4. Unforgiven

  5. The Outlaw Josey Wales

  6. Two Mules For Sister Sara

  7. Pale Rider

  8. Hang 'em High

  9. High Plains Drifter

  10. Joe Kidd

  11. Paint Your Wagon

(edit: now that’s strange: there shouldn’t be a gap between 2. and 3., no gap between 4. and 5., none between 6. and 7. and none between 8.and 9., but I’m not able to change that. I still don’t like that new forum layout)


#167

A Fistful of Dollars above For a Few Dollars More. Now them’s fightin’ words Sir :wink:


(titoli) #168

Late for the party, but yee-haa, here we go (I’ll exclude SWs because that’s what I’ll do):

  1. Unforgiven 10/10
  2. The Outlaw Josey Wales 8/10
  3. High Plains Drifter 8/10
  4. Pale Rider 7/10
  5. Two Mules for Sister Sara 7/10
  6. Hang 'em High 7/10
  7. Joe Kidd 6/10
  8. Paint your Wagon 6/10

It’s been a while since I saw Josey and Joe, so my thoughts on them could be different now. Wagon was very dull, pretty big letdown for a movie with two of my all-time favourite actors, but hey, at least it has Lee singing that song, so extra point for that.

It is common opinion that Eastwood said everything he had to say in western with Unforgiven. A lot of movie-opinion-makers would even say that with Unforgiven whole genre said everything it had say. I agree (until I am proven otherwise). There were good genre excersises since, but Unforgiven is the last great western.


(Stanton) #169

Well, I don’t watch westerns or any other films for what they have to say, but for how they tell what they have to say. For their style and story telling techniques.

And besides I think that everything Unforgiven has to say, had already been said in the 70s countless times. Unforgiven is a total 70s twilight western.

And then his Leone films are the kind of genre films which are made after in a genre everything was told.

I also don’t think that Unforgiven was the last great western, even there might not have been a better one since then.

And of course there is never a reasonable reason not to make just another western.


(Wilco Vedder) #170

1 The Good, the Bad & the Ugly
2 The Outlaw Josey Wales
3 Unforgiven
4 For a Few Dollars More
5 A Fistful of Dollars
6. The Beguiled (is it a western? well, if Paint your wagon is listed as a western …)

The other westerns are minor and do not appeal to me.

  • Pale rider has too much of Shane in it (and high plains drifter as well) and is not really original. Only the beginning with the prayer (… and I saw a pale horse …) was nice to me.
  • High planes drifter: the story of supernatural avenger is not really worked out fine. Django thil bastaro was more original
  • Hang em High: too close to the Hollywood western. With another director this could have been much better
  • Two mules for sister Sara: too many open ends. Started fine with Siegel as director and music from Morricone. Fine basic idea but in the end they lost it

(titoli) #171

Ulzana’s Raid (1972)

Simply great (seen it for the first time). The dialogue was among the best I’ve seen in western:
“I just don’t like to think of people left unprotected,”
“Yes. It’s best not to”


(The Man With a Name) #172

My favourite American western. :slight_smile: Best cavalry and Indian film ever made!


(titoli) #173

This calls for another poll! :slight_smile:

Let’s do it slightly different:

Best classic: Fort Apache
Best revision-era: Ulzana’s Raid
Hidden gem: Fort Massacre
Best spaghetti: ? Can’t think of any…


#174

May as well add my Clint list:

  1. GBU
  2. FAFDM
  3. Unforgiven
  4. High Plains Drifter
  5. AFOD
  6. The Outlaw Josey Wales
  7. Pale Rider
  8. Hang em High
  9. Joe Kidd

Still haven’t seen Paint… or Two Mules… It’s terrible given I call myself a Clint fan.


(kit saginaw) #175

Red Sundown, 1956… just needed to be 20-to-30 minutes longer, because it’s a well-written piece. The dialogue, I mean. Rory Calhoun is the brother of a famous dead gunslinger, who decides to become a deputy-sheriff for a few days.

The local cattle-baron brought in a wagonload of barbwire to post-up, enraging all sorts of antagonists. That’s the plot. Calhoun works to smooth everything out, culminating in a ‘showdown’ with another famous gunslinger.

" A hot gun isn’t a warm pillow. " … 6-out-of-10.


(scherpschutter) #176

I had never seen this nice little western
It’s not a masterpiece but a very enjoyable ‘girls power’ movie:


(scherpschutter) #177

THE MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING

A western that’s probably more famous, or infamous, for things happening behind the scenes than for the action on-screen. But it’s not a bad movie. Read all about it in my review:


#178

Yellow Sky - 4/5
Ulzana’s Raid - 3.5/5
Hombre - 4/5
The Assassination of Jesse James - 4.5/5


(ENNIOO) #179

Interesting western or mood about the film. Reynolds looks good, especially the bearded look. The type of Reynolds movie I enjoyed before he got bogged down with what I call “The Car” films .


(scherpschutter) #180

I liked the first Smokey & the Bandit movie, that was good fun, But he defenitely appeared in too many would-be funny movies. I like the guy, or better the actor, but he should’ve done a lot more with his career, acting wise (I guess he did well financially)