The Last Movie You Watched? ver.2.0

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The Foreigner

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1615160/

Jackie Chan and Pierce Brosnan star - Not the sort of thing I’d usually go for … but I picked up a Blu Ray copy for 40p, so, little risk involved :wink:

Actually a very enjoyable thriller, which did surprise me … as I’m not a great fan of either of the lead actors … However, as an Irish person, I can’t let Brosnan’s attempt at a Northern Irish accent go by without a comment - To the un-trained ear he probably sounds quite convincing, but no one … absolutely not one single person from the North of Ireland would accept his accent as realistic.

It’s a rough Belfast accent he’s trying to pull off … and the trick is to replace vowels with alternate ones, so Belfast becomes Balfost or Bilfest if you’re trying to sound ‘posh’! LOL … he’s trying hard, but it just doesn’t come off, which was unfortunate as he’s surrounded by real Northern and Southern Irish actors throughout the film, who could have corrected him, but I suppose that’s not etiquette or smart, if you want to work again in film or TV.

At one point it becomes too hilarious or cringey when he pronounces the name, O’Reilly as ‘Oh Really’! WTF … he’s a professional actor, from the Island of Ireland and he can’t get this right … Holy fuck, as we say here :wink: To make matters worse, it is revealed late in the story that his character is actually from Derry, not Belfast … and that’s about as different as Manchester and Liverpool accents.

It’s certainly not the worst attempt I’ve heard, but it still amazes me that actors and directors don’t do their homework before they begin production - People are always praising Helen Mirren and Meryl Streep for doing great accents … that’s their job, ffs!

To the rest of the world this will seem completely unimportant, but it irks me a lot - Here endth the rant :crazy_face:

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Watched Kelly’s Heroes for the first time in probably 20 years… What a great flik, may not reach the heights of Where Eagles Dare, but it comes pretty close imo

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Poliziotto Sprint.
Maurizio Merli without mustache. For fans of Fast and furious, with seventies flavor.

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I watched this for the first time last night, not sure what to expect…

Wonderful, weird, funny, colourful, dazzling, confusing, engrossing, and most definitely an acquired taste - rather like Marmite.

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Did I enjoy it? Absolutely! Although my mind is still struggling to take it all in…

A second, third, and most certainly a fourth and fifth viewing are on the cards for the future…it was also great to see Bruce at the top of his form.

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Haha, actually only realized northern and southern Ireland would have different accents when reading an Irish book and one character mentions someone, “Speaking in a Northern accent.” Sorry, can’t imagine how many times it happens in American movies.

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Finished From Dusk Till Dawn 3: The Hangman’s Daughter tonight. @Admin was right, an excellent film! Probably my favorite of the three. It was the only one where the vampire’s slaying scene didn’t feel overly long and boring. Not surprised Rodriguez seemed to have more involvement with it.

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It’s a small country with a lot of different accents, probably due to the various groups who have occupied / invaded the place over the centuries … also, way back in the day, rural people didn’t travel much more than a few miles in their own areas, so, some places will have specific speech patterns and their own colloquial expressions, phrases etc.

However, in the case of Pierce Brosnan … Belfast is the biggest city in the North, and does have one very distinct sound, (though there are many variations within that area) so Pierce should have had a coach to help him out when the accent slips into nowhere land.

If you’re from the USA, imagine the difference between a NY Brooklyn accent, for instance and say, Dallas Texas. Wouldn’t that sound ridiculous if a character slipped from one accent to another?

Americans are often guilty of saying, he/she had a British accent … there are literally 100’s of distinct variants in the United Kingdom, which includes England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

I understand that someone writing an action adventure story, may think of an idea to have heroes or villains from a certain region, because it gives the film an exotic flavor - but basic research seems to have been skipped from the production agenda - when all that would be required is to tell your story to a study group, who can identify very quickly all the no-no’s

Biker drama ‘Sons of Anarchy’ had such problems, with a large chunk of the series dealing with characters from Belfast, N. Ireland, who, all but one actress, Paula Malcomson, had the correct accent.
People here would have been screaming with laughter at the sound of Northern Irish Police speaking with Southern Irish accents … again, as an example, a New York native cop starts speaking like he’s from Durango Mexico ! That’s how stupid and totally unrealistic it is !!!

Bet you’re glad you brought this up again, Rocky? LOL :wink:

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Blonde (2022). Watched it for Ana de Armas and she was ok in it, but the film itself sucked big time.

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LG, why did it suck?

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I thought it was alright once you realize it’s an adaptation of a novel, not a biography

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I love the original. Despise the rest, including the show.

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HAH, I’m really fascinated by different types of accents and dialects so actually glad I did. Honestly does seem a little odd that a film centered around Ireland with (presumably) a slew of Irish actors would mess up the accent that badly but maybe they just figured most foreign viewers wouldn’t notice.

Like I said, love the second two films but I can appreciate why a fan of the original would dislike them. They’re both a little more campy than the first movie, particularly Hangman’s Daughter.

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That’s my thought too … if it were just a wham bam action flick, it wouldn’t matter so much, but this was partially based on real incidents, or at least Northern Irish political history … not the Jackie Chan out for revenge aspect :wink:

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@aldo I’d still love to know your thoughts on Orson Welles’ Irish accent in Lady from Shanghai. I recall you saying DiCaprio’s in Gangs of New York wasn’t the worst you’d ever heard!

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Don’t remember if I’ve seen that movie … is he a sea captain type who narrates the story?

I’m guessing it’s ‘Gawd Awful’ ? But sometimes one can make allowances for someone as charismatic as big Orson.

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Yep, it’s a good film despite the studio interfering and cutting it down (like a lot of his work).
I especially wanted to see it since Enter the Dragon apparently took the mirror scene from it.

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I’ll make a point of checking it out asap :wink:

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Slaughter (1972, Jack Starrett)

A piece of Blaxploitation, how’s that for a change? Jim Brown, the football star turned movie star, plays an ex-green beret who seeks revenge after his parents are killed by the Mob. His daddy had connections with the underworld, so he might have seen it comin’, but that doesn’t matter to our black badass hero: revenge he wants and revenge he’ll get.

The movie has all the ingredients of the subgenre that was on everybody’s lips in the early Seventies: virtually no story (only a premise to explain the action), an indestructible black hero who kicks a lot of white ass, some nudity (Stella Stevens in her birthday suit!) and lots, lots of violence: fistfights, shootouts, executions, chase scenes, you name it.

With his typical laidback style, the stoic Brown is a less talkative and fanciful leading man than most other black actors who made themselves a name within the Blaxploitation genre (Richard Roundtree, Fred Williamson, etc.); as a result the movie feels less mannered than most other Blaxploitation efforts. Jack Starrett’s no-nonsense direction and a better than average cast (apart from Stella Stevens we also get Rip Torn, Don Gordon and Cameron Mitchell) also lift this entry a whiff above the big pile. But it remains B-movie stuff, so it’s best enjoyed with your brain turned off.

**½ out of 5

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