Yes but I havenāt got round to seeing how the print is yet. Iāll post again when I have.
Iāve just checked the Arrow Blu and it looks pretty good, pretty much the same as all the other western transfers theyāve done. Iād recommend it if youāre a fan. I plan on giving it a re-watch myself for the first time in years over the next week or so.
Me too, because I donāt take kindly to the BBFC ruining my fun.
I didnāt realise the Uk release was cut Does anyone know what was missing exactly?
Arrow posted a warning about it a few weeks ago.
Itās just a 5 second horse trip, but iām a badass who isnāt offended by that stuff so iām getting the uncut disc.
I f****ng hate those horse fall cuts, UK version of Conan the Barbarian is unwatchable because of those.
I imagine it results in absurd jump-cuts which are more unsettling that the horse falls wouldāve been.
If itās just 5 seconds, it isnāt too bad, is it?
It doesnāt sound like much, but in the context of a sceneās fluidity, it can make a big difference.
Havenāt seen whatās going to be edited from āThe Grand Duelā, in fact I canāt remember where the offending moment happens ⦠and itās only a few months since I last re-watched the movie.
The āhorse tripā cut from āNavajo Joeā on the 88 Films release was really jarring - we see two riders coming for the wagon with the dance hall girls ⦠one rider is swinging bolas, which are thrown at the front horseās legs. In the edit, the wagon just comes to an abrupt stop, and we donāt see the horse go nose down after getting tangled in the bolas.
As one member mentioned, this scene is included uncut in the trailer for this same release. Itās utterly ridiculous that 21st century regulations should be applied to a 50 year old movie released on disc. Why not just include a note on the packaging to inform people that this type of action takes place ? Therefore adults can decide for themselves if they wish to buy the movie.
Totally agree.
The UK disc is uncut if you put it in a region A player or a multi-region player set to region A as confirmed by a poster on bluray.com.
Iād bet good money there werenāt any cuts made to Navajo Joe, when released in UK cinemas ⦠as we all enjoyed our animal cruelty back in the 1960s
Cancel that ⦠hereās what IMDB says
For its original UK cinema release BBFC cuts were made to edit the shooting scenes, the beating of the Indian, and the killing of Duncan with a rock. The Optimum DVD restores the cinema edits but is cut by 6 secs to remove shots of horsefalls and a cockfight.
Nice. Didnāt know that was possible.
Surely, the only thing that would achieve would be Arrow having to withdraw the release from shops.
Arrow havenāt put out Navajo Joe.
And since the uncut Grande Duello is accessible via UK discs there must be some leniency/ignorance.
Cheers. Fortunately Iām an animal-lover so Iām actually happier with the version Iāve got.
Strangely though I do entirely agree with this.
Iām an animal lover also - hate cruelty ⦠but I donāt appreciate being policed in this way.
Itās a pathetic sweep it under the carpet policy. To cut some scenes, we all know are there, does not benefit any cause.
Wonder how many horses died during the making of Ben Hur (1959) ⦠but would anyone dream of taking their scissors to the chariot race scene.
Are we also to assume that books on WWI will show atrocities suffered by humans but not the horses or other creatures ⦠cause thatās no longer acceptable ?
How about snakes and spiders BBFC ??? ⦠Iām thinking of the intro of āTwo Mules for Sister Saraā ⦠one squashed huge spider, plus Clint cutting the head off a rattlesnake.
It`s all a part of the moral panics of this century. Hellā¦
How about the Buffalo being decapitated in Apocalypse Now?
You should see their reasoning for Cannibal Holocaust. In the Shameless release, all but 1 animal deaths are uncut because it was down to whether they believed the animals felt pain, or if they were killed quickly.
AKA: rather subjective.