SWDb Support, Funding and Fundraising

Here are a few remarks on the SWDb’s funding situation, some suggestions and notes on how the SWDb can best be supported. This is a very old thread that has been somewhat updated.

How is the SWDb structured?
It is no legal entity, but a personal (hobby) project by @Admin. That means for example that bigger donations are not tax-deductible, it also means it’s not a non-profit or foundation in the legal sense that could employ people, have bookkeeping and all that. I would however love to set up the SWDb like that, but it would only be worth pursuing if we could reach some sort of multi-million funding situation.

How is the SWDb currently financed?
Most costs are covered by an unsteady flow of commissions paid by Amazon plus money out of my own pocket. It works like this: if someone uses our Amazon links on the SWDb and then makes a purchase, we earn a commission fee. This sort of revenue is unpredictable, subject to ups and downs. It helps cover most of the regular cost, like hosting and domains. Since @Admin also runs Tarantino.info, the GCDb, and a few other sites on the same Amazon account, it’s not a precise science. The other major revenue would be donations. There is preciously little of them. All the work that goes into the SWDb, not just by Sebastian but all the other voluntary contributors is of course unpaid. Same goes for larger investments, upgrades, marketing, etc. which Sebastian pays out of pocket.

What about Sponsorship?
I have tried again and again to find companies willing to dish out a fixed sum for a logo placement or something, but most of the relevant companies just don’t do that kind of marketing spending for activities that don’t return a clear, measurable success. And the banners we tried in the past never worked well either. It would still be very ideal, since it would introduce a kind of reliance and steadiness into our funding. As for ads in general, I have stopped using them for the most part as they annoy people more than they bring in.

An example calculation for donations
Our Facebook page has a bit over 26.000 followers. If only 2.5% of them (that is 900 people) donated just 1 Euro/Dollar, the SWDb would be comfortably financed for an entire year at least. If only 1% of them (that is 260 people) donated just 5 EUR, that would work just as well. So just in numbers, one would think it shouldn’t be so hard to make the SWDb more sustainable, but so far each year’s fundraising drive helped preciously little, as there is not nearly a steady stream of small donations. Having said all that I gladly appreciate every single donation we do get, and sometimes we do get a few larger ones, so a thousand thanks to you!

Other options
I’ve been considering a few things. Once would be to actually incorporate the SWDb as a non-profit corporation, or a non-profit association or even a foundation. But all of that would require a decent amount of people putting in commitments and in the case of the corporation or foundation also money. It would come with costs attached (mostly legal fees and red tape) and would require untangling the SWDb from my other web endeavors, which to some degree might have covered shortfalls, so once we untangle, the financial unsustainability might become a lot clearer, and of course then the tax man would have a closer look.
Another option would be to turn to outside help and maybe hand the SWDb over, for example to something like a national cinema foundation (one in Italy, or something like the BFI in the UK, etc). That would mean loss of control over this project that is more our “child” than just a plain hobby.
Another option along these lines is to ask well-off individuals if they would be interested in becoming benefactors or maecenas. Tarantino, Frayling, living Spaghetti Western actors, directors or producers come to mind, etc.

How can non-financial support look like?
The best support has two faces: One, personal contributions on the SWDb (additions in text, pictures, links, videos etc) or activity in the forum. The SWDb just needs to get better, that support is worth a lot more than money. Two, spreading the word. The more people use the SWDb, the more famous it gets, the more it establishes itself, the better Amazon commission revenue will be, the more likely it is that fundraising drives work, and the more attractive it becomes for sponsors.

How can you donate?
You can visit the Donate page, linked on top of the SWDb Forum and main site, or just PayPal something directly to admin@spaghetti-western.net

In short: please contribute. Discussin the forums, share our content on social media, send in content, contribute reviews, spread the word, use our Amazon links, and donate a few bucks. Thanks for reading.

One thing I will spearhead is push an overhaul of the DVD etc subpages to those are more user friendly, and I’ve also put up some buttons at the top of the page to showcase some catalogs and list pages, and there’s a banner at the bottom of the pages now.

So there is one amazing SWDb fan who regularly donates quite a larger amount of money. I keep telling that person that I don’t know what to say, I am so humbled, and the project really needs it and how grateful we all should be.
I also tell that person how it would be a lot more sustainable, if instead, many many people would donate just tiny amounts of money. I am still trying to find a great solution to incentivise more people to chip in a bit, but I just don’t have the time to optimize all kinds of aspects for better click rates. I am open to ideas though.

Just to let you all know, across my websites the number of Google ads is being reduced (it’s just s shitty system)… at the same time Amazon referrals are still the best source of income for the sites. Especially more expensive books or box sets or new releases of course work best, as the commission is %-based. So whenever you intend to shop at Amazon, or friends or family intend to, click on one of our Amazon links first. It’s a small step for you, but a big step for the SWDb :slight_smile:

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Especially with the new EU privacy laws, keeping some of the Google Ads is hardly worth the trouble/risk. Considering how highly anticipated some spaghetti westerns are, the number of folks using our links to order them is still shockingly minuscule however :frowning:
So keep inviting people to the SWDb, keep sharing SWDb news/content on social media, etc… Thanks for all the support. We’re doing great/fine!

Hi Sebastian,
Can I place items in my basket and just use the link from this site for final payment?
Or do I have to go from this site to Amazon and make selections first before purchasing?

Not sure about the order. Best to click on one of our links, then proceed with shopping without closing your browser in between. Not sure if it works if all items have been in the cart already

You can now shop at DeepDiscount and (just like Amazon) the SWDb gets a commission…

Happy shopping, use this link: http://www.pjtra.com/t/TEFNSUVHQUVMSktFSkFFRERJSUY?website=291549&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deepdiscount.com%2Fsearch%3Fmod%3DAV%26gn%3DWesterns-Classics

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Do you know if you all get commissions from Amazon if someone follows the link from the SWDB, adds it to a wish list, and buys it later?

It needs to be a purchase with the same browser session. So:

  • if you click a link on the SWDb to Amazon and buy, no matter what u buy, the SWDb gets a commission
  • if you click a link on the SWDb to Amazon, put stuff in the shopping cart, but then leave Amazon or close the browser and finish your shopping later that day or some other day, then the SWDb likely wont get a commission. To avoid that, re-use the SWDb link and continue the shopping…

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The new PayPal donation module is much more convenient

But still not enough people donate smaller amounts. Every now and then I do get a donation in, but it would be much more sustainable if more people would donate small amounts than just a few people bigger amounts on an unregular basis. This is of course the problem any project like this faces :slight_smile:

So to those who can spare just a few bucks over christmas, feel free to send them the SWDb way (but only after you’ve donated to an actual charitable cause first, nobody at the SWDb is starving of death but many people around the world are, suffering from the effects of war, climate change or disease)

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Just to flag: for those willing to part with a few bucks, donations greatly appreciated, as we’re running out of space and I still don’t have nearly enough dough set aside from major fixes the database will need. If any of you know a few richs folks or maybe companies or foundations also who may want to support the SWDb in some way, please do spread the word. As always, I’d prefer if thousands of folks were to just donate a buck or two rather than a handful of people donating far too much individually

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Many have noticed the SWDb keeps being unavailable. This is because it keeps being attacked by what is called a DDOS (distributed denial of service). That means requests to the website come from countless different sources and at very high volumes, impossible to block individually, putting so much strain on the server it ends up incapable of serving pages to visitors.

The only thing we can do (and probably will have to) is pay for relatively DDOS-proof infrastructure that will incur additional monthly costs.

The SWDb also needs software updates and some technical fixes I am not skilled to apply. This will require one time expenses (I will probably need to pay someone to help out).

At an rate, the need for donations keeps being relevant, not for the usual running costs (which I can cover) but the reasons stated above. So keep forwarding the link to the donation page to any affluent friends you have :))

Update: Don’t wanna jinx it but I may have found a way to beat this. I will keep an eye out. Fingers crossed.

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