I like the way the âContentsâ display in the sidebar now instead of pushing the page contents down. @Admin , should we take out the __NOTOC__ tag when we edit a page or leave it for the update to take care of?
you can go ahead remove the NOToCs wherever you see them and it makes sense (there may be some cases where we donât want it, but it depends)
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almost done with the Podcast archive, just a mistake in there somewhere that I still need to find
I think we should have a more convienent way to implement country flags as well, probably like this
http://tkrotoff.github.io/famfamfam_flags/
I will look into how easy it is to implement
Testing bulk upload of pictures. It works but not happy with the user experience. Will let everyone know once I found a âniceâ solution.
As for the film pages, I am at my witâs end, so I am inclined to say we shall roll with it. Problem is, if on the way we tweak or find a better solution or we encounter problems, we have to go through all pages again. Thatâs why we HAVE TO do a select few pages first and then test those for a while (e.g. the top 20).
https://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Main_Page/filmseite
What about ârelease dates and SCREENINGSâ ?
Does this page structure include every kind of info weâll likely have for some movies? What is missing?
Yep, if youâre happy with the test page Iâll do one, say The Big Gundown, and see how it turns out.
Well the release dates are in there for most and are as close as we know, @JonathanCorbett does a running check with his sources for Italian releases. Anything more can be accessed from the IMDb link unless someone has an accurate source 
Screenings would need regular updates to the pages so probably keep those in the forum IMO.
How many volunteers have you heard from to help? Unless you have a way to automate these, It is a LOT of work. Back in the day I went through every film page to update them to the current format. It should be better now as the pages have a similar format, then they were all over the place, but there are a lot more pages now.
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OK this was easy. How to use it is explained in the link. So it kind of works like the fontawesome icons I am increasingly using to make things more appealing. We can use these flags in that way for the calendar, the also known as, and so so onâŚ
I think I got all the info from the previous version. Thoughts?
excellent. made just a few minor fixed and tomorrow I want to investigate why we have no laserdisc or VHS info on this one
Looks you want to keep all the headers, to be filled in later if no info exists yet
not necessarily, but I was hankering for an activity during tomorrowâs breakfast, haha.
Generally, I think for most of the major movies we should have plenty of content for all sections. On others, we can leave out the sections we have nothing for, but keep the order of sections so users always find them right.
Question: keep external reviews under external links? could be that if we move them to reviews there is nothing under external links. but there are things on the web that are valuable external links that arent reviewsâŚ
Either way. You moved them up in Big Gundown but the test page has them under âExternal linksâ which may make more sense 
if it makes more sense then we do it that way, see, thatâs why I like feedback, not everything I do makes sense 
I think I have made up my mind how I want to do the roll-out:
- we do it slowly. There is no need to try and apply this to 700 pages in a matter of weeks.
- we do the most important film sites first, starting with the top 20, and so son.
- we take our time with each film we update: in the wake of applying the new style, we use that as an occasion to add pictures, find links, fill some gaps in the information, weed out dead links, polish the synposis, etc. so that weâre not just changing the look, but also the quality of the information the SWDb offers. Also then it doesnât become a mindless editing job, it more neatly integrates into our constantly ongoing gradual improvement where several people fix things here and there all the time.
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Here is something of a checklist (with tips) in order to apply this to other sites:
- start out with the Django page and apply its markup code to a film page that should be upgraded. You can do this by moving all the existing markup code further down to start; another way is to do this on a temporary subpage, e.g. ââŚ/newâ first and apply it to the actual page only once youâre happy with it and maybe a second editor has also had a look at it
- the NOTOC needs to be removed in the end if one exists
- we leave out sections that we have absolutely no information on with the movie at hand, but if it could be included in a day or two, we leave it (e.g. there is currently no censorship and version info on the page, but there is some in the imdb, on moviecensorship.com and already on the /DVD subpage, so it could be easy to finally add some info about existing versions)
- if we havenât already, we remove all external links to sites that are already dead (e.g. shobary, etc)
- have a look at how the links are to be included for the little icons at the bottom of the page (imdb, wikipedia, etc) and if there is no link (not all movies have wikipedia entries), leave a âlink=â
- double check that the movie poster gets and alternative text âtitle of the film movie posterâ and itâs high res enough to become full width of the browser window on a smaller device (that means one step to take after transforming the site is to open it on a cellphone, to be sure).
- watch out, some BluRay subpages are at /BR instead of /BluRay
- for each film page we finish, we should post in the films discussion topic to announce it and use the occasion to ask for additions, corrections, pictures, and other info to be added or contributed
For now we have Django and The Big Gundown migrated, I would love to have some others take a look at these and give us some feedback before we tackle the next ones. Especially, I think we should take the opportunity to look at the film pages we migrate and add more pictures, links, info, etc⌠use it as an opportunity for quality improvement in general. For example, for The Big Gundown, all we have are German VHS covers⌠that canât be it 
Now that Iâve done an update a couple of thoughts (feedback) on the top layout
current layout
- the separating line with the âopen folderâ icon should be darker with a header
- this should be a menu to the sub pages, thereâs no need for âRuntimeâ, Release Dateâ, âBudgetâ here as they have their separate sections below
- let the icons do their job, no need for headers âHome videoâ, Backgroundâ, âOn listsâ
- separate the second line, their own lines
- Django had a âCommentâ which is not here, a lot of pages currently have a user comment section. How do we handle those? move to the âOpinion pageâ or make a âComment sectionâ?
- is there a way to have the âfas fa-â icons to have hover property? when user points his mouse at the âfas fa-compact-discâ it pops with âVideoâ for example. Iâm not good with HTML
Here is a screenshot with my changes:
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are you sure? I donât see one comparing it to the pre-update version.
I am looking into your other suggestions.
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Youâre right. The comment was taken out some time ago, probably one that was copied from another site 
Implemented most of your suggestions on the Django page. Made me think to change the release dates section headline, and word the first line on the article page a bit nicer. Not sure yet about naming the box âmenuâ, as thereâs already a âcontentsâ in the sidebar⌠maybe even that is self explanatory? I split the dvd/bluray from the âoldâ mediaâŚ
Some other tasks I have carried over from the old 2019/2020 âimprovement missionâ that I donât consider quite done yet
- Sebastian needs to update all the disclaimer texts (privacy, about, copyright, etc.)
- ensure responsiveness on the Introduction article
- Debatable: Add IMDb-type keywords to film pages (for instance Dynamite, Machine gun, Whipping, Duel, Bank robbery, Bridge, Civil War, Native American, Hanging, Drinking Milk, Beating, Parasol, Revenge, Surprise ending, Mexican Revolution), but be rigid and specific list to avoid an uncontrolled proliferation of uninteresting or repetitive entries
- Overhaul plot synopsis for all films to be spoiler-free but at the same time informative.