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Thank you Bill , that is the one indeed.
I appreciate all your (and other editors) excellent work on this SW Forum/database.
[quote=āPhil H, post:13, topic:113ā]Had this one on the shelf for a wee while and just got around to watching it yesterday.
On the whole an enjoyable, middle of the road kind of spaghetti for my money. Decent but not great.
The final sequences were the best in the film without doubt and really lifted it in my estimation.
Likewise, the score was excellent in places and made up for some gaping holes in the plot, continuity and editing elsewhere in the film. Another plus is the cast. Steffen and Fernando Sancho (doing some excellent over the top mugging) make it worth the entry price on their own.
Overall it gets my thumbs up as a a solid 3 star example of the genre. Nothing spectacular.[/quote]
Just watched the new Koch-Media release and must say I completely agree. Thereās nothing to add ! The DVD is one fine piece, of course. Just as weāre used to get from KOCH ! Picture quality and audio are really good. The German dubb is, in parts, pretty cheesy though (I already knew from my tape) but I enjoyed watching it in Italian with subs (German/English). The DVD is uncut and with 96min. about 10min. longer than my old ITT Contrast videotape (excellent print). A really nice bonus is the featurette āCinevento 2007 - In memory of Francesco de Masiā about one of my dearest SW-Composers !
BTW: The German title is āDjango - Die Geier stehen Schlangeā what means as much as Django - The vultures stand in line !!! ;D
Does anyone have any comparison details of how the Koch-Media release compares in quality and running time to the Japanese SPO release?
I am aware the Koch media release does not have english audio (but english subtitles), whereas the SPO one does have english audio.
I bought this film, I canāt believe it.
Mille dollari sul nero, which is considered as the better one or Cardoneās best SW, was already an ok one, a solid and entertaining 5/10, but not more. And Sette dollari sul rosso is a weaker one, just as it was expected by me.
The Koch Media support effect, I assume. Ok, it wasnāt expensive and itās a nice digi, so no complaints.
The film is a mixed affair in nearly every respect, like it was said in most of the before posts.
But I think meanwhile I canāt see Fernando Sancho as slimey grining mexican heavy anymore, only doing what he always does.
And Steffen? Here he really must be called Stiffen. There are many tragic developments in the story, but Steffen fails completely to deliver anything else than his usual expressionless mimic. Heās completely unbelievable as a possessed revenger.
I am also curious to know how the new Koch Media disc compares to the old SPO release.
Iāve been told that the picture quality should be betterā¦but, no definite on that, yet.
As for the film itself, I happen to like it (mostly for the musical score)āwith all of its faults.
You know it always cracks me up when Spaghetti Western fans complain about Anthony Steffen being āstiffā or āwoodenā. Often this comes from people who have no trouble with Charles Bronsonās performance in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WESTānow thereās a seriously wooden performance, in my opinion. But, ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST is brilliant and so is Bronsonās performance. Now, donāt get me wrongā¦SEVEN DOLLARS ON THE RED is nowhere near as good as anything by Leone and Steffen is no Bronson; but, the point I am trying to make is that Steffen did exactly what I think the directors wanted him to do in the Westerns he made.
Also, I happen to think that SEVEN DOLLARS ON THE RED is one of Steffenās least āstiffā roles!
Consider his light, smiling, almost bouncing performance BEFORE he gets home to find his wife murdered and his son stolen. After that tragedyā¦he goes around like a man in shock (which to me is quite believable). Then he goes quite emotional when everything comes to a head during the final moments of the film. I mean, Steffenās method is just one way to play this type of typical roleāthe polar opposite is the way over-the-top, close to ridiculous portrayal of a similar character by Thomas Hunter in THE HILLS RUN RED. Hunterās performance is just too much, in my opinion.
I mean all of this is subjective and purely a matter of personal opinion; but, I think too many people are way too quick to jump on the cliche Steffen is wooden bandwagonā¦just because they think it is expected of them, or something.
Like I say, though, it is all a matter of opinion.
No Chris, there is a great difference between Bronsonās performance in OuTW and Steffenās here.
Bronson is also a limited actor, but he could be very convincing in a certain type of role, but Steffen here lacks everything.
Compare it to John Wayne in The Searchers. Wayne was also criticised for not being good or always playing the same (himself), but today nobody would say that this wasnāt a very powerful performance as an angry and possessed man.
Maybe more later, maybe also about Sette dollariā¦ , donāt have much time now, but Iām āworkingā in my mind on the film. Not sure about the outcome.
SEVEN DOLLARS ON THE RED 1966 EXCELLENT CAST IN TOP SW BY CARDONE
Previous postings on this forum by SDB and others have CORRECTLY exposed the
STIFF/WOODEN/DULL/TIRESOME ACTORS & ACTRESSES AS BEING THE LIKES OF
DENiro, Pacino, Streep, M.Caine, Humphrey Bogart, Bette Davis and similar specimens :ā(
THE SW LEADING ACTORS Like Anthony Steffen/Richard Harrison/Clint Eastwood are
some of the GREATEST ABILITY ACTORS with a Magnificent SCREEN PRESENCE.
I am in total agreement with the previous postings and the above facts/opinions
ANTHONY STEFFEN SW Number 1 LEADING MAN (25 SWs as Leading Man)
I must say I liked Seven Dollars To Kill. The German Title: Django - Die Geier stehen Schlange is really stupid. The Quality of the Koch Media DVD is as usual perfect. Of course there are plotholes and Anthony Steffen is not the best actor for such a tragic figure, but overall it was quite entertaining. I also agree with the Review of Phil about this movie.
The Story reminded me also on The Searchers with John Wayne. But besides the story of the search after a kidnapped child this two movies havenāt much in common. I liked the Music Score of De Masi. For me an entertaining SW and better than may others.
Not really. You can think so if you want, that is your right and I respect your opinion. But, that is all it is. Bronson has moments of barely recognizable wistfulness when he speaks with Robards; but, that is it as far as emotion goes. Steffen is just as stoic as Bronson in SEVEN DOLLARS ON THE REDā¦with the exception that his character is somewhat exuberant in his opening scenes. I donāt see much difference between their performancesā¦in the filmās themselves there are miles of differencesā¦but, in the performances none.
And I am not comparing Bronsonās overall acting career to Steffens, which is how you seem to be twisting what I have said. I am just saying that Bronson is as wooden as anyone could be in OUATITWā¦and it is perfect for that film.
Just as I think Steffenās supposed tendency to woodeness is perfect for most (not all) of the Westerns he did.
Again, this is just my opinionā¦so a NO shouldnāt figure in to it. A āI disagreeā would be fineā¦but, you canāt tell me NO.
Well, itās always only an opinion, it canāt be anything else. I was only talking with you. Sorry, if it sounded like a rebuke or whatever.
The difference is that Steffen gives me nothing, and Bronson does.
But Bronson hasnāt to be emotional in OUTW, whereas Steffen here should deliver some emotions and doesnāt.
Well, he tries, but thereās not much coming.
And yes, heās most of the film only stoic, but thatās a misconception in this film, either by him failing or by the director not guiding him. So the film doesnāt work for me, there is a potential, but itās only partly used.
Steffen was at best in D. the Bastard, where he had nothing to act.
He was OK in several films, where he also hadnāt much to do.
As actor I liked him most in Last Train to Durango where he plays with a surprising self-ironic note.
He he, maybe he was miscast in all of his films.
[quote=āstanton, post:31, topic:113ā]Well, itās always only an opinion, it canāt be anything else. I was only talking with you. Sorry, if it sounded like a rebuke or whatever.
The difference is that Steffen gives me nothing, and Bronson does.
But Bronson hasnāt to be emotional in OUTW, whereas Steffen here should deliver some emotions and doesnāt.
Well, he tries, but thereās not much coming.
And yes, heās most of the film only stoic, but thatās a misconception in this film, either by him failing or by the director not guiding him. So the film doesnāt work for me, there is a potential, but itās only partly used.
Steffen was at best in D. the Bastard, where he had nothing to act.
He was OK in several films, where he also hadnāt much to do.
As actor I liked him most in Last Train to Durango where he plays with a surprising self-ironic note.
He he, maybe he was miscast in all of his films.[/quote]
Fair enough opinion, amigo!
I canāt say I totally agree, or disagree with youā¦but, that is what these sort of discussions are all about, of course!
I didnāt feel you were ārebukingā me, by the way. I should have put a little smiley after my sentences about the whole NO thing.
I still havenāt seen TRAIN FOR DURANGO, yetā¦am waiting for that Koch release!!
Iām also waiting for the Koch DVD, cause the german version was as always cut. Considerably, about 20 min.
Well, my comments about Sette dollariā¦ sound now all a bit to negative.
I can recommend this film (and especially the Koch DVD) to every SW fan.
Itās a 4/10 film for me after the 1st watching, which means itās an ok film, a watchable and entertaining film, no waste of time.
It was only that there was the potential for more.
Oh, I have just gave my vote, and Iāll gave it a 3 star vote nevertheless.
So I also noticed the other votes.
It seems that SD had also given his multiple votes. I guess all 7 with 5 stars are his.
Maybe we shouldnāt make a mysterie about the polls. I gave it 4 Stars.
Iāve already given my views on this film - but for an extra two-penneth ā¦
Although this isnāt a top drawer spaghetti, it does have a fabulously gothicky mud-splattered and rain-soaked ending. Many of my favourite spaghettis are often better films but with a bit of a let down with the ending. A Bullet in the Forehead is one such example that Iāve seen recently that was a bit ho-hum at the end. After great finales with early viewings of Django and Silence, I initially expected more from the genre ā¦ but it aināt always the case (I still love āem thoā).
So ā¦ 7 dollars is great in this respect.
I gave SEVEN DOLLARS ON THE RED a 3 star rating. There is a lot that I like about the film (the musical score is excellent, Silvana Bacci makes an appearance, and I like the finale, etc.)ābut, there is much that could have been handled better.
[quote=āChris_Casey, post:9, topic:113ā]I like this one quite a bit. Not anywhere near as good as Cardoneās other Steffen film $1000 ON THE BLACK (aka BLOOD AT SUNDOWN) with Gianni Garko; but, it is still very enjoyable.[/quote]i agree with Chris on this, i did not at first think i was going to like it, as i feel it has a very clumsy start, but gets better as it goes along, as somebody has already mentioned, the film has large holes in the plot, and neither steffen or sancho characters grow any older over the years the film depicts as the āSonā grows into a man( unless you count the tufts of grey on steffens hair in the latter part of the film).The ending was slightly different than i was expecting but neither the end or the film as a whole is as good or effective as Blood At Sundown. enjoyable enough though.