Watched the fan dub mentioned above with the mix of English and Italian audio with English subs where needed.
This is a very uneven film but an entertaining ride. Certainly a buddy movie rather than a full out comedy. I always enjoy Garko in a film but Spoletini steals the show here. He manages to play the larger than life type without becoming irritating. Pity he didnāt get many leading roles.
Is this fandub made from the German DVD?
Yes.
I watched the film yesterday.
Entertaining material, without much depth.
The score is nice, but is rarely used.
Some sadistic scenes, a variety of anti-heroes.
Certainly not the best movie of Rafael Romero Marchent, but thanks to good actors a little more than average film.
The Koch Media DVD has a good image quality.
The German dubbing is terrible, unfortunately. Therefore, I have watched the movie in Italian.
Just finished watching this. Likeable enough in an offbeat manner, but itās all a bit of a mess, really. An episodic Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid wannabee buddy movie that tries to straddle that no-mans-land between the violent Spags of the sixties and the knockabout slapstick comedy Spags of the seventies but fails to be both, and in trying fails also to be either one thing or the other. The movie features a charming and spirited performance from Guglielmo Spoletini but a phoned-in, almost bored turn from Gianni āSANtana-not-SARtana-even-though-theyāre-all-calling-me-SARtana-despite-being-nothing-like-SARtanaā Garko, deciding that a vague allusion to Robert Redford in his tassled jacket will suffice. The female love interest was appropriately sexy enough though, as is often the case. Did they all decide to live as a weird trio of lovers at the end? Theyāll wind up on Jeremy Kyle, mark my words.
As I said, itās a light-hearted and easy enough sojourn, Iāll give it that. And the set-pieces, taken in isolation, are rather fun. One section featuring a badass family of nutjob brothers and their hideous crippled patriarch was probably worthy of expansion into a larger (better) movie on its own. But a lack of focus, a lack of direction kept me from truly committing to this movie.
The ending is unimpressive: in my opinion the penultimate sequence was the best way of concluding the movie, without further āantifeministā implications.
First part of the film is quite boring for me but it gets good when are introduced to the Kirby family. The theme is really good, too. Iād give it either 2 and 1/2 or maybe 3 stars.
Just noticed that movies4men in the UK are showing this next Friday - Recorders at the ready, gentlemen!
Hopefully they will be screening an uncut version, or at least one that includes the missing English dialogue from the German DVD based fandub. For those who havenāt seen it, there are approximately 10 minutes from the beginning of the movie which are in Italian and subbed in English, and a few other shorter sequences. As the film on the German version has a running time of 85 minutes, it seems likely that this could be the full version - Fingers crossed!
I planned to watch it tonight. I have a 85 minutes version, with Italian dialogue. Donāt know if itās cut or uncut
85 minutes PAL is probably the correct running time - Iām just hoping for a complete English language version.
Movies4men have a tiresome habit of chopping films for time and content ā¦ they actually show āA Bullet for the Generalā as part of the morning schedule from time to time ā¦ and itās certainly not a film suitable for younger children, so most of the more sadistic stuff is gone - same thing with āTexas Adiosā, āA Taste for Killingā and quite a few others.
They might consider renaming their channel movies4sensitivemen or do the sensible thing and show later in the evenings. But they are a pretty dumb channel, save for the occasional SW.
This was always enigma for me. It works well as classical sw and it does work well enough even as comedy but together it is a mess. Undecided direction pretty much plagued it. With some cuts and little different music you could make either quite gritty sw or more lighthearted fun. It is pitty because this is one of Marchentās better efforts and it looks pretty good.
http://fistfulofpasta.com/index.php?go=reviews/sartanakills
I agree with the review: an enjoyable genre entry
I donāt remember the last minutes, but I guess the confusion is due to the fact that itās a late genre entry, and they didnāt know exactly were to go with it. Presumably the actors and director didnāt want to be too serious, but didnāt want to make a real slapstick SW either.
When I watched it, quite a few years ago, I thought I was going to watch a genuine Sartana ā¦ and thought I had rented the wrong movie!
That song āRide along, ride along, hey amigoā is really infectious : iāve just watched the trailer and will be humming it for hours ā¦
My version of this has German audio for the 1st 10 minutes or so., i found a download of it last year and lo & behold it was the same copy. >:(
Great western though, Garko was the best Sartana ever, itās a pity he didnāt make more of them.
[quote=āscherpschutter, post:1, topic:1122ā]http://fistfulofpasta.com/index.php?go=reviews/sartanakills
I donāt remember the last minutes, but I guess the confusion is due to the fact that itās a late genre entry, and they didnāt know exactly were to go with it. Presumably the actors and director didnāt want to be too serious, but didnāt want to make a real slapstick SW either.[/quote]
That confusion in the end you speak of is indeed the one failing of the movie for me. Seeing these best buds suddenly turn against each other and then shortly after forget anythign ever happened was just a bit too much of a stretch for me. I was surprised how much I enjoyed the movie otherwise. It didnāt fall into ācomedyā territory for me; moreso a bit lighthearted. I definitely didnāt even think of it as a Sartana movie in any way.
Itāll be interesting to hear Col. Mortimerās take on this. When I mentioned I was reviewing this, he told me he didnāt like it, because of the buddy aspect.
BTW, this film was already discussed in itās own thread
http://www.spaghetti-western.net/forum/index.php/topic,495.0.html
Itās a pretty violent and cynical SW, which contrasts with a slightly lighthearted touch, which makes some of the really malicious plot developments so surprising and shocking. Even more as these malicious parts are often presented with a time delay.
And yes, the lame end ruined it a bit. (And of course the terrible german comedy dub, which really kills the film)
With an interesting end it could had become a minor classic.
I know, but I was commenting on JDās review on the hosted site
I understand thereās a dilemma here: itās up to Sebastian and JD (lordradish) to decide what to do and where to place reactions
(Iām far too young to make such decisions!)
I understand there's a dilemma here: it's up to Sebastian and JD (lordradish) to decide what to do and where to place reactions.
Yes, thatās something Iād like Sebastian to chime in on and offer some guidance. Itās a good bet that most of the films we review at Fistful have their own thread here on the forum. Iād like to keep this board perhaps discussing our own reviews. Iām definitely interested as to whether or not people agree or disagree with our reviews, but I donāt want to cut into the SWDBās territory or have a bunch of duplicate stuff here.
Sebastianā¦ any ideas on the best way to proceed here?
[quote=āscherpschutter, post:72, topic:439ā]I know, but I was commenting on JDās review on the hosted site
I understand thereās a dilemma here: itās up to Sebastian and JD (lordradish) to decide what to do and where to place reactions
(Iām far too young to make such decisions!)[/quote]
ohh, I didnāt noticed that we were at another place
lol
well I agreed to host JDās section here, so more people can take part in the discussion without having to open yet another forum. the idea would of course be not to duplicate stuff more than necessary, maybe JD can post his website news and review updates here, and open topics for reviews thatās fine. the dilemma will probably not be easy to dodge, as any discussion about a review will eventually circle around the film as wellā¦