Region-Free BluRay players


(Bad Lieutenant) #1

“This is why I have 2 players…”

Admin edit: Splitting this off to give the discussion its own topic. And thanks to Bad_Lt. for triggering the debate.

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(Søren) #2

Is there any way to get a Region Free-player in Europe for less than 200 euro?


(ENNIOO) #3

If there is not there should be for that price !


(morgan) #4

Just bought an American Sony BDP-S1500 Region A Blu-Ray and All Multi Region Free DVD Player from eBay for 100 $. With shipping and customs still less than 200 euro.


(Sebastian) #5

gave this discussion its own topic.

For the record, a lot of region-free BluRay players sold only have the DVD’s region-lock opened, the BluRay portion remains region coded. Why is that? Because DVD region code is enforced on a software level and is thus easy to manipulate. BluRay region code is a hardware specification that cannot be modified, only replaced. That makes truly region-free BluRay players a lot more rare and more expensive generally.


(Søren) #6

We have a quite aggressive customs rate in Denmark :slight_smile: $22 customs fee + 25% Vat of the total amount including postage :slight_smile: So postage can’t be that much before the 200 euro are reached.

And then I would surely still need a reliable power converter!?


(Søren) #7

Ah I think I found the player you talked about and can see that doesn’t need a power converter!? But what about the plug, does it come with a European style plug?


(candela) #8

For the more technically inclined spaghetti western fans

How to help yourself

  1. Get a PC with Bluray drive (and HDMI output to connect to TV)
  2. Install freeware VLC with libaacs and libbdplus
  3. Install freeware AACS Updater to get a public database of known Bluray keys. Installation packages including VLC libaacs/libbdplus are available which also perform necessary configuration. Optionally replace libs with newer versions

=> Run AACSUpdater to download key database. Now VLC can play Bluray discs (all regions) for which keys are in the database. This excludes Bluray discs using BD+ protection (> generation 3) or BusEncryption (not sure if VLC supports this. Get a temporarily working certificate here). Luckily only major studios use these extra protections

How to help others

  1. Install a commercial DVDFab product. Currently a free Passkey licence is available. A registered version allows playback of discs with BD+ and/or BusEncryption. Trial versions can apparently be used indefinitely for the following step, if you don’t trigger the start of the trial period by actually playing a disc
  2. Install freeware FindVUK to extract disc keys from the DVDFab product

=> Run AACSUpdater to contribute your extracted keys to the public database. This lets other people use these keys without having a DVDFab product, eg Linux people. This unlocks these discs forever and allows playback of your legally bought media (and sends a big fuck you to Bluray DRM which should be illegal)

If you need more help, please let me know. It seems difficult to start but once you have it running it’s easy. Keep in mind that FindVUK exploits a security hole in DVDFab to get the keys. DVDFab may fix this at any time (or DVDFab may get defeated by AACS itself) so it’s important to get as many keys while we can


(Bad Lieutenant) #9

Thank you for this helpful information, but in my opinion this is not the handiest of options. It’s easier to buy an American player as well. I initially had some gripe with buying one myself, for the simple fact that I already had a player for a different region. Seemed superfluous to me. However, there is no easier way around this nonsensical system. It’s either that or discard a whole bunch of cool releases because of player incompatibility.


(candela) #10

That’s why I said it’s for the more technical minded people. It is free (in case you already have a PC), you’re helping other people and is future proof. It’s also useful for making screenshots to post on the forum :slight_smile:

Most people don’t understand/realize the aggressive and vicious nature of Bluray DRM . But sooner or later they probably will run into it


(Bad Lieutenant) #11

Oh, I do understand. And agree with you on BluRay DRM. But I always tend to pick my battles. My solution is the easiest for me. I’m technical minded enough, but I just can’t be bothered with such a hassle. Moreover, my computer is in another room than my tv.


(Søren) #12

What hassles does this give? Did you have to change the plug, get a power converter, anything? What player did you get? Need all the info I can get my hands on :slight_smile:


(Bad Lieutenant) #13

I have a Sony BDP-S3100. Simple, but good performance. For what I use it for, anyway. This player can handle European power, all you need is an adapter and you’re set. I have a version that has a region-free DVD player.


(Søren) #14

An adapter for the plug you mean? I think I know someone who would be able to change it for an EU-style plug so if that is the only problem, there really isn’t that great a problem :slight_smile:

Thanks!


(Sebastian) #15

[quote=“Søren, post:14, topic:3595”]An adapter for the plug you mean? I think I know someone who would be able to change it for an EU-style plug so if that is the only problem, there really isn’t that great a problem :slight_smile:

Thanks![/quote]

Yea that should be it for the most part. It might be worth paying attention to getting a newer player that adheres to latest HDMI 1.4b specifications etc, so as not to get connectivity issues in the long run due to DRM, and so as to enjoy the full potential of the audio return channel.


(morgan) #16

I had to buy a combined converter/adapter (for use in Norway). I paid more or less 30 euro for it.


(Søren) #17

I’m confused now. Wasn’t it this you bought:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-BDP-S1500-Region-A-Blu-Ray-and-All-Multi-Region-Free-DVD-Player-/131582224301?hash=item1ea2e967ad:g:t0EAAOSwMmBV0eMy

It says “100-240V Worldwide Voltage” and doesn’t that mean that if I had a plug that fitted I could just plug it in the wall and voila? By converter I take it you mean a step-up converter (110V -> 220V)?


(morgan) #18

Yes, that’s right. It came with a 12 V AC adaptor. So I was advised to buy a converter, and I bought a dibotech input 230 V - output 110 V converter. I don’t know about these things, but it works.


(Søren) #19

Hmm… Yes 220V -> 110V of course, my mistake :slight_smile: I already have such a converter but don’t know if it can handle the kind of power a blu-ray player demands. 30 euro extra is starting to equal the 200 euro I didn’t want to match :frowning:


(djvaso) #20

I would go with Pioneer BDP-450 which is GBP 130 at richersound.com. It is not zone free out-of-the-box and should be flashed with a custom firmware which gives unique features.