Re: Are Spaghetti Westerns Exploitation Movies?

Judging from Starblack’s very informative post, I think we can say that Spaghetti Westerns, while proably not intended to be by their makers, were made into exploitation films by the producers marketing of the movie.

Well, here’s a link to Wikipedia’s page on Mondo films:

While there doesn’t seem to be many of them, they do seem to exsist.

That Silence just won’t live up yo his name!

The spaghetti-westerns exploiting the genre may be exploitation movies. Leones films is certianly not.

[quote=“John Welles, post:42, topic:2085”]Well, here’s a link to Wikipedia’s page on Mondo films:

While there doesn’t seem to be many of them, they do seem to exsist.[/quote]
You can’t trust Wikipedia…

True. Once upon a Time in the West is many things, but it is definatly not exploitation.

No, it’s not, but FoD was exploitation in its time.

Yes, A Fistful of Dollars was exploitation at the time.

No I don’t think so

Then you could also say the early Bond movies, Sam Peckinpah or even Alfred Hitchcock were ‘exploitation at the time’

I think you can… for some reason its become popular opinion that everything in wiki is wrong because everyone can edit it. However, there are lots of people closely monitoring new edits for incorrect information and it is quickly removed. I’ve tested this myself by putting false info on wiki pages and its been taken down in less than an hour.

The SWDB is no different than wiki, but we all trust it don’t we?

[quote=“Lindberg, post:49, topic:2085”]No I don’t think so

Then you could also say the early… Sam Peckinpah[/quote]
Well, critics did acurse The Wild Bunch of being expliotive.

Do we?

Off topic. Used to work for a place a few years back and most people were snakes ( say one thing to your face and another thing behind your back). Things got pretty bad at one point and me and my friend had a saying…" Until proven otherwise assume what everybody says is bullshit"

A cynical view yes, but one that saved our arses from managers who would slit their own mothers throats for brownie points.

The Wild Bunch was called a violence porn in 69. But it was at the same time praised as art.

I think Peckinpah and Hitchcock were too “arty” to be called exploitive. Even if both made continually pretty violent films.
The early Bond films weren’t anything special, and mainstream anyway. They did what was usual in their time.

But I think that FoD, unlike Leone’s later movies, is exploitive in the accumulation of violence and in the way how it is presented. Leone developed his style further with the next 3 films, in which the exploitive elements are differently handled in the films.
But this does FoD not set apart from the other films in terms of quality, nor does it make it a better or worser film compared to the others.

Yes but this does not make Fistful an exploitation genre movie though, which is what we’re discussing

And I don’t think Hitchcock or Bond were exploitation either, this was just a comparison I made

Re the SWDB wiki

We trust it because it’s a much smaller and private project, probably there are some errors, but on the whole the data is correct I would assume :slight_smile:

EDIT That guy Mark made some incorrect contributions, but he seems to have left some time ago

I would say No. Don’t think it was the intention of the Directors to make Exploitation Movies.

This is exactly what it is like at my work. At this point, I’ve kind of assumed that all office environments are like this. Its amazing just sitting back and observing

[quote=“Stanton, post:53, topic:2085”]I think Peckinpah and Hitchcock were too “arty” to be called exploitive. Even if both made continually pretty violent films.
The early Bond films weren’t anything special, and mainstream anyway. They did what was usual in their time.[/quote]
Yes, Hitchcock made suspense films aimed very clearly at the majority of the cinema going public (Spaghetti Westerns were aimed more at younger people), and like you said, he did make “Art Films” (Vertigo for example). Peckinpah pretty much devided everybody (Roger Ebert called Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia a masterpiece, but other critics called it one of the worst moves ever made) and James Bond was made to appeal to everyone. So, Spaghetti Westerns (apart from post-Dollars Trilogy Leone) was exploitation.

SWs are imo exploitation because the main interest of many was mainly to show extreme violence, a violence which was often condemned as repulsive then.

In many there isn’t much of a story in it to connect the action scenes.

Also, they had expliotive titles like Massacre Time.