Yes, but in that case he wouldnât have been able to âfeelâ where his opponent was in the filmâs final: he is still able to shoot with remarkable precision because his blindness was a process and he has learned to live with his handicap. I think itâs essential to the movie that he is a aging person, and the problem is not Mitchell, but the other characterizations, notably the daughter and her lover, theyâre 50s or even 40s Hollywood, embarrassing, painfully inadequate
Even after an eye injury he could lose his sight slightly, you donât need more than the screenplay claiming this.
My only point was that I assume with a younger hero it probably would have been a success.
Hmm, I donât remember the daughter role being that painful, but hey, with a young hero, the daughter problem would have been also solved.
For me one of the most appealing things in Minnesota Clay is the elder hero. I like these stories about aging gunmen. Btw, I wonder if Minnesota Clay was influenced by life of Wild Bill Hickok who was also gradually losing his sight.
No, but I mean the scenes these two characters share. havenât seen the movie in a while, but remember them as quite corny
I wouldnât call it The Searchers or High Noon, but it definetely felt in line with the early âHollywoodâ spaghettiâs like In a Coltâs Shadow, Adios Gringo, The Hills Run Red etc. I think it was the bright cinematography, the romantic sub-plot and lack of Corbucci level violence.
I did like Mitchell but Iâve got to admit Iâd have probably enjoyed it more if it was Gemma. Havenât seen Johnny Oro yet but itâs on my to watch pile, I never thought Iâd enjoy it so I never bothered getting it but watching this one has got me a lot more interested.
IMDB has Anthony Ross as Antonio Roso?
Fifth credited Anthony Ross should be C.S.C. actor Alberto Cevenini who has a major role. Anthony Ross is also credited in Colorado Charlie which again features Cevenini in a prominent role.
Joe Kamel (real name Giuseppe Frisaldi, according to Tom) is not Jose Canalejas, here with Alvaro de Luna.
@JonathanCorbett, any idea about Madeleine Dehecq? That would be a female name wouldnât it?
Defenitely a female name, yes
Looks French doesnât it? There are a couple of girls in the background but this one is the only other female character Iâm finding with a closeup (sort of).
It is a French name, could be her
No doubt about Cevenini, I donât know who this Antonio Roso is but definitely not a C.S.C.actor (there is a list of former students at Centro Sperimentale di Cinematografia).
Madeleine Dehecq
as you correctly pointed out thereâs no third significant female character in the movie: proportions and even hairdo of the waitress in the 1966 Spanish/French co-production Amador (lightning appearance) seem to match despite the poor quality of the blown-up image.
Joe Kamel
the name Giuseppe Frisaldi is correct, but Iâm sure itâs not him in the picture with Alvaro de Luna. Itâs not very easy because of the different hair colour if compared for example to Quinto: non ammazzare aka El valor de un cobarde, but I think that Western Maniac forumers are right (third pic from the top down)
Interesting! Not only blond hair but moustache and eyebrows (which appear thinner). I donât presently have my dvd handy to check further, but he appears leaner too.
Ok I guess he doesnât mind the blond look
Minnesota Clay, Captain McKenzie in Bullets Donât Argue, Sebastian one of Curlyâs killers in The Mercenary? (also from WM)
Thatâs an important confirmation. For IMDb Frisaldi is uncredited in The Mercenary and listed as Del Karmel in The Seven from Texas, but it must be said that in the Italian version of both films heâs regularly credited as Joe Kamel.
I watched a couple of episodes of the Netflix series âGodlessâ recently. The sheriff there is also slowly losing his sightâŚ
The dialogue for each version is different in the scene where Clayâsâs daughter comforts the dying (or not dying) Clay. The US Shortened version has Clay admitting that sheâs his daughter before dying. In the extended version, he tells her how he defeated the bad guy. Then the new scene starts. The following subs are translated from the French version ending.
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,640
Oh no! Clay ! Clay !
844
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,000
Itâs a miracle. A miracle.
845
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,040
You are alive. I was about to shoot
when I heard⌠a sound of metal.
846
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,880
I realised it was on you.
847
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,280
It was your bracelet,
then I heard him⌠And I shot.
848
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,720
I had only one witness
who could prove my innocence: It was him.
849
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,840
He knew the truth⌠and I killed him.
850
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,520
- All is lost.
- No.
851
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,360
- Clay, listen: I beg you not to lose hope.
- I want to, but itâs all over.
853
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,320
Now, thereâs nothing can be done.
854
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,640
NancyâŚ
855
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:27,840
No. Clay!
856
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,120
No!
851
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,680
You will receive the reward
for the arrest of Minnesota ClayâŚ
2
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:51,200
Let his innocence be established or not
when given fair judgement.
3
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:53,880
He will be exonerated, I am certain of that.
4
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,360
The village has found peace again,
and soon the children will return to school.
5
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,480
Hey, Clay!
Hurry up, thereâs a long way to go.
6
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,360
He will come directly, sir.
7
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,720
Yes, I have trouble seeing anything
with these damn spectacles.
8
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,440
Youâll get used to them, Clay.
The doctor said you must never remove them.
9
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,120
Iâll try.
10
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,320
Forward!
11
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,520
If people were told what this man went through, theyâd never believe it
12
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,920
Take care of her.
I will return for your wedding.
13
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,080
- And why wonât you stay
- I canât.
14
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,840
One of these days⌠Goodbye.
15
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,400
Goodbye, Clay.
16
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:37,880
Goodbye.
17
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:50,760
- Tell me, do you think heâll come back?
- Yes, heâll be back.
18
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Yes Iâm sure. Donât worry
19
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,800
Goodbye.
20
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,080
Take care, Clay⌠Take care.
21
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,280
So, did you tell her?
22
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,560
No. I didnât have the courage.
23
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,040
Itâs better this way. Take care of her.
24
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,200
And yourself.
25
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,360
Adios, amigo.
26
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,400
Adios, amigo.
Thanks for posting that.
I havenât watched this in a while but does Clay not clearly acknowledge that she is his daughter in the longer version then?
If he doesnât, and the girl would not be his daughter, it would change the meaning of the entire movie. Would make some of Clayâs behavior rather pointless
Not that she isnât his daughter but just that Clay doesnât openly acknowledge it to her.
I think I need to watch this one again some timeâŚ
Okay