Mexican westerns section?

Ok, just had to do some basic reading about the wiki software, appears to be a Template:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates

I will add that now

And here we goā€¦

Now you can simply insert this tag at the top of any film page, and it will insert the flag, text and link:
{{Mexicanwestern}}

In case anyone else wonders how to do this to improve the DB in different creative ways, you just create a new page with a URL like this:
http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Template:Mexicanwestern

In that page, you place the stuff you want to show up when using the {{Tag}}, then when you use {{Tag}} it will embed this Template page wherever you place it

What do you guys think about placement?

Do you like it at the top, under the film title like this: El juez de la soga - The Spaghetti Western Database

Or over by the poster, like this: 20.000 dĆ³lares por un cadaver - The Spaghetti Western Database

u guys are amazing

Thatā€™s excellent, autephex

Yes, good stuff !

[quote=ā€œautephex, post:83, topic:3439ā€]What do you guys think about placement?

Do you like it at the top, under the film title like this: El juez de la soga - The Spaghetti Western Database

Or over by the poster, like this: http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/20.000_dĆ³lares_por_un_cadaver[/quote]

I prefer over the poster, the eyes draw to the artwork rather than the title.

Iā€™ve generally thought the same since first seeing the Eurowestern flag in the poster section sometimes (not always where it is placed in all the entries)

Was curious what everyone else thought before I started adding it to all the titles, may as well make the placement standardized

Over the poster

Ok, just finished adding the flag to all current Mexican Western entries

Still gotta add some more films, and still need to complete entries for the existing ones with synopsis and whatnot

Got these ordered and on the way 8)

All links include the SWDB Amazon code, so ready to be pasted into the DB pages, along with the coversā€¦ Iā€™ll add it all later.

El Buscabullas

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[url=http://www.amazon.com/Tierra-Violencia-Rogelio-Guerra/dp/B0003JAJGI?ie=UTF8&tag=spaghetti-western-20]Tierra de Violencia


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[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MRNWGK?ie=UTF8&tag=spaghetti-western-20]Arriba Las Manos Texano / Manuel Saldivar, El Texano


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[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000R5NZ14?ie=UTF8&tag=spaghetti-western-20]La Mula De Cullen Baker

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[url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00114KUYA?ie=UTF8&tag=spaghetti-western-20]Pistoleros Bajo el Sol

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Why a film released in January 1960 (A tiro limpio) has been included in the Mexican Western category?

Some of the titles in there are included because the DB entries are edited to link a filming location in Mexico to the Mexico categoryā€¦ so there are a handful of titles which arenā€™t really Mexican westerns, just filmed there at least partially

But looking at that one specifically, is it not a Mexican western? It is directed by RenƩ Cardona and shows the country as Mexico at imdb?

Or are you saying its too early of a film to be made as a spaghetti? I suppose the definition isnā€™t totally accurate for every last title on that page, but then there are a handful of titles in the DB which were made prior to FoDā€¦ so I guess it depends on how technical you want to get, I guess the definition page could be modified or some entries could be cut out.

Or perhaps a note added like the flag one, which would apply to non-Mexican entries also

Exactly.

Because the DB includes all Eurowesterns independently from their style, but to my way of thinking there is no reason to include non-European productions if not related to the genre. And this one is a black and white movie filmed in 1959ā€¦

I added that one. Itā€™s a Cardona, but itā€™s pre-Fistful, yes.

Wanted to chime in this discussion, but due to a mess-up of my internet provider I have very limited acces to the web.

Anyway, been meaning to add some more, like full Cardona western filmography, the Mariscal ones an de De And a westerns. Of which some are indeed pre '64. Completeness sake in that regard so to speak.

i forgot what the original argument was we included the mexican ones, seems JohnathanCorbett is one of the unconvinced ones

I am very much in favour of the inclusion in the database of Mexi-westerns similar to SWs in terms of content and from an aesthetic point of view and at the same time I am strongly opposed to the addition of old-fashioned Mexican westerns unrelated to the Leone-derived subgenre.

Iā€™ll leave it to BL to post a response as to what he thinks about removal of this one or any like it.

I can see his point about completeness, if its an earlier film of a director who later made several Mexican spaghies. I can also see the points about it not really fitting into the SW genre.

But then I also donā€™t really understand why anything to do with Europe automatically qualifies inclusion in the SW genre. There are many titles in the DB simply because of German/Spain/wherever production/location but I would not consider SW themed at all, some pre-SW and some not, but none having any SW genre characteristics. Iā€™m not interested in those and probably wonā€™t ever watch most of themā€¦ I certainly wouldnā€™t relate them to SWs in any way. For example, all the Winnetou films (there is even one of those from 2007 in the DB).

Then the US westerns filmed in Spain are also included but I wouldnā€™t call them part of the SW genre either.

If simply being in Europe is all required to qualify for inclusion, then Iā€™m not really sure what the standards are based on at this point, as it isnā€™t a geographical location which inspired the genre.

But as far as the Mexican inclusions, I donā€™t really have a problem with not including titles like thisā€¦ other than that it limits the completeness of info regarding genre related directors, a limitation which isnā€™t placed on European directors which made non-SW euro-westerns. And in the case of films like Winnetou and Karl May based German productions, these directors didnā€™t do anything SW at all, they simply have the advantage of being in Europe :P.