Can O Cangacerio be classed as a western! It is set in 1920s Brazil.
My opinion it is not a western!
The same can be said with Wrath of Wind (Terrance Hill) and Man, Pride and Vengeance (Franco Nero), both are set in Spain
Can O Cangacerio be classed as a western! It is set in 1920s Brazil.
My opinion it is not a western!
The same can be said with Wrath of Wind (Terrance Hill) and Man, Pride and Vengeance (Franco Nero), both are set in Spain
All that are facts ![]()
but some folks adher to a wider definition of the western as an art form that is not tethered to time and geography.
It’s not really a western, but being made by SW guys it bears some similarities to the genre. Enough to be discussed in connection with the genre, but still not really a western.
Same for the other 2 mentioned above, or Taste of Violence.
Agreed
It’s not a western in my book. It takes place in South America. I draw the line south of the border at Mexico. Anything beyond that is not a western to me.
at what time in history at Mexico though
just kidding we know what you mean though.
Based on Tom_B comments this brings up another two movies The Silent Stranger and Get Mean where the majority of these films are set in Japan and Spain however the main character in these films does appear two movies that are set in the west! . Should these two movies be considered as full Spaghetti Westerns or an hybrid Spaghetti Westerns?
What about Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, most of the time takes place in Bolivia? Is it a western? ![]()
O’Cangaceiro is an exotic contribution
within the SW subgenre of Zapata westerns, but all the characteristic elements are there: the simple farmer who becomes a revolutionary, the corrupt governor, the cruel army, the overt violence, and the ironic humor.
In real life Butch and Sundance carried on their lives in the U.S. They fled to SA to escape the law and the Pinkertons. I consider the film a western because the SA adventures were a continuation of their US careers. OCangacerio takes place fully in SA. There’s a difference. As far as Silent Stranger and Get Mean they are not true westerns but hybrids because of a western character in a different country and as far as Get Mean a different world. Most books consider A Man, His Pride, a Vengeance a western but only in costuming as it takes place in Spain as does Terence Hill’s Trinity Sees Red entirely in Europe both are not westerns for me.
I just wanted to point out that there are gray areas, overlaps, and fluid transitions in all areas; there is no clear definition of a Western. In many cases, it is up to the viewer to decide, as tastes vary. And that’s a good thing. In any case, it’s fun to discuss here and everyone can express his opinion. It can also help to broaden your horizons when you see things from a different perspective.
Exactly. Everyone has their own interpretation of the term Western.
The German dub of “Man, pride an vengeance” sets the story to Mexico. This reason makes it more to a SW.
There’s also a version of Trinity Sees Red that does the same thing.
Only watched “Trinity sees red “ or “The wrath of the wind” with English dub. But good to know. This flick is thematically more European, I’ll guess.
What do you mean? It is a European film…
the topic and the way to tell the story are not typically for a SW. It appears as what it is, a historical drama about the working class in Spain. The content has more European vibes, I’ll guess.
Some scenes give us a hint: The first assassination scene or the killing of Hill in the end at example. Even the way they use Revolvers or the living room of the main character in the beginning. Everything has a more European touch.
A SW uses other stereotypes for the pictures.
My use of the word “European” refers to the topic and not to the origin.
Got it. But that’s because it’s not a western in the first place except through modifications to the story via some dubs
If ‘They called me Trinity’ was not such a great success it is likely that the later dubs of ‘Wrath of Wind’ would have not changed Terrance Hill’s character from Marcos to Trinity and change the setting to Mexico!
For me, ‘Wrath of Wind’ does not have the feel of a spaghetti western!
Absolutely not. That was not my intention to say.