If You Love Sartana, Vote For Your Death!


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #1

Haha seriously I am just annoyed that “If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death” (The first one) has been rated only 5.6 by a mere 73 IMDB voters. This is the lowest rating out of all the Sartana movies. I don’t think one of the most popular, talked about, and influencial SW’s of all time should be rated so low by so few. I think this movie deserves at least a 6. 2 and should have well over 100 voters. Some lesser known movies even have more votes than Sartana.

That is why I would like to start a Sartana voting compaign. I urge all members of this forum who enjoyed the first Sartana movie to register or log on to imdb.com and give the movie a 10 out of 10 rating. Hopefully together we can raise the average rating to a level that more accurately evaluates the greatness of this classic SW. This movie is obviously not on par with the Leone movies, but its a classic SW nevertheless and deserves more support on imdb.

Are you with me Amigos?


(alk0) #2

It won’t help if everybody will register just to vote for this particular movie because only votes of so called regular voters [the ones that cast more votes and not only ‘1’ and ‘10’ ones] count on imdb.


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #3

This is only true for voting for the top 250 movies of all time as well as the top 50 in each category. In this case, only the votes of “regular voters” count.

However, Sartana will probably never qualify for a spot in the top 50 all time westerns list anyway. Also all votes DO count towards an individual films final ratings.


(Bad Lieutenant) #4

Voted.


(Bill san Antonio) #5

Hmm… why bother? I don’t give a damn about imdb ratings anyway and neither should anyone else.


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #6

Bill San Antonio. Dear Sir. I know you did not intend it. But your post comes off as a little bit rude.

I do care. Imdb is the definitive website for movies. Sartana is a great movie and deserves higher than 5.6. My campaign continues Amigos!..


(Søren) #7

Yes but definitely not for spaghetti westerns. I’m with Bill on this one, imdb is great for the ‘big’ movies but for genre-movies like the Sartana ones it’s really not the place. People interested in the spaghetti western genre should come here instead.

And the ratings on imdb should always be taken with a grain of salt.


(Bill san Antonio) #8

[quote=“mrchallenge, post:6, topic:716”]Bill San Antonio. Dear Sir. I know you did not intend it. But your post comes off as a little bit rude.

I do care. Imdb is the definitive website for movies. Sartana is a great movie and deserves higher than 5.6. My campaign continues Amigos!..[/quote]Ok sorry, keep on going voting for Sartana if you feel like it. it’s just that personally I don’t give much credit to imdb ratings. Although I have to admit that imdb top250 isn’t all that bad -they have 2 Leone westerns in top20!


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #9

Actually, imdb is surprisingly good for SW’s (except for Sartana). Here are the the top 20 SW’s I’ve found after doing a powersearch. The first number is the rating, the second is the number of votes:

1 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966)
…aka Bo, el lleig i el dolent, El (1966) (Spain: Catalan title)
…aka Bueno, el feo y el malo, El (1966) (Spain)
…aka Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The (1967) (USA)
…aka Good, the Ugly, the Bad, The (1967) (USA: literal English title)
…aka Magnificent Rogues, The (1968) (UK) 8.9 73853
2 C’era una volta il West (1968)
…aka Once Upon a Time in the West (1969) (UK) (USA)
…aka There Was Once the West (1969) (USA: literal English title) 8.7 37859
3 Per qualche dollaro in più (1965)
…aka Few Dollars More, A (1980) (Philippines: English title)
…aka For Some Dollars More (1965) (International: English title)
…aka For a Few Dollars More (1967) (UK) (USA)
…aka Für ein paar Dollar mehr (1966) (West Germany)
…aka Muerte tenía un precio, La (1966) (Spain)
…aka Por unos cuantos dólares más (1966) (Spain)
…aka Por unos pocos dólares más (1966) (Spain) 8.2 20824
4 Grande silenzio, Il (1968)
…aka Big Silence, The (1968)
…aka Grand silence, Le (1969) (France)
…aka Great Silence, The (1968) 7.9 1800
Faccia a faccia (1967)
…aka Cara a cara (1968) (Spain)
…aka Face to Face (1967/I) 7.9 265
Per un pugno di dollari (1964)
…aka Fistful of Dollars (1967) (UK)
…aka Fistful of Dollars, A (1967) (USA)
…aka For a Fistfull of Dollars (1967) (UK)
…aka Für eine Handvoll Dollar (1965) (West Germany)
…aka Por un puñado de dólares (1965) (Spain) 7.9 19717
7 Giù la testa (1971)
…aka C’era una volta la rivoluzione (1971) (Italy)
…aka Duck, You Sucker (1972) (USA)
…aka Fistful of Dynamite, A (1972) (UK) (USA: alternative title)
…aka Once Upon a Time… the Revolution (1971) 7.7 4356
Vamos a matar, compañeros (1970)
…aka Companeros (1972) (USA)
…aka Compañeros, Los (1971) (Spain)
…aka Laßt uns töten, Companeros (1971) (West Germany)
…aka Zwei Compañeros (1971) (West Germany) 7.7 500
9 West and soda (1965) 7.6 79
10 Mio nome è Nessuno, Il (1973)
…aka Lonesome Gun (1974) (USA)
…aka Mein Name ist Nobody (1973) (West Germany)
…aka Mon nom est personne (1973) (France)
…aka My Name Is Nobody (1974) (Philippines: English title) (USA) 7.3 3921
Resa dei conti, La (1966)
…aka Account Rendered (1966)
…aka Big Gundown, The (1968) (USA)
…aka Halcón y la presa, El (1966) (Spain) 7.3 470
12 Giorni dell’ira, I (1967)
…aka Blood and Grit (1968) (UK: video title)
…aka Day of Anger (1969) (USA)
…aka Days of Wrath (1967)
…aka Gunlaw (1980) (UK: video title)
…aka Tod ritt dienstags, Der (1968) (West Germany) 7.2 246
Django (1966)
…aka Django (1966) (Spain) 7.2 1943
Lo chiamavano Trinità (1970)
…aka Just Call Me Trinity (1979) (Philippines: English title)
…aka My Name Is Trinity (1971) (USA)
…aka They Call Me Trinity… (1971) (USA: dubbed version) 7.2 2607
15 Corri uomo corri (1968)
…aka Big Gundown 2 (1968) (USA)
…aka Run, Man, Run (1968) (International: English title)
…aka Saludos hombre (1968) (France) 7.1 260
Keoma (1976)
…aka Desperado (1976) (USA: cut version)
…aka Django Rides Again (1976) (USA)
…aka Django’s Great Return (1976) (USA)
…aka Keoma il vendicatore (1976) (Italy)
…aka Violent Breed, The (1976) 7.1 711
¡Mátalo! (1970)
…aka Kill Him! (1971) (USA: bootleg title)
…aka Mátalo (1970) (Italy) 7.1 52
18 …continuavano a chiamarlo Trinità (1971)
…aka All the Way Trinity (1971)
…aka Trinity Is STILL My Name! (1972) (USA)
…aka Trinity Is Still My Name (1979) (Philippines: English title) 7.0 1785
E Dio disse a Caino (1970)
…aka And God Said to Cain (1970)
…aka Cain’s Revenge (1970) (Australia: video title)
…aka Satan der Rache (1971) (West Germany) 7.0 112
Per una bara piena di dollari (1971)
…aka Barrel Full of Dollars, A (1971)
…aka Coffin Full of Dollars (1971) (USA)
…aka Nevada Kid (1971) (USA)
…aka Showdown for a Badman (1971) (USA) 7.0 77

I admit, there are some anomalies, the inclusion of a Fidani movie in top 20 for instance, as well as “West and Soda” which is a cartoon. But overall its not a bad list.


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #10

Here are the next 24, again, some anamolies but overall the movies are treated quite fairly.

21 Chuncho, quien sabe?, El (1966)
…aka Bullet for the General, A (1968) (USA)
…aka Quién sabe? (1967) (Italy: short title) 6.9 483
Une corde, un Colt (1969)
…aka Cemetery Without Crosses (1969) (USA: dubbed version)
…aka Cimitero senza croci (1969) (Italy)
…aka Rope and the Colt, The (1969) (USA) 6.9 141
Da uomo a uomo (1967)
…aka As Man to Man (1968) (USA)
…aka Death Rides a Horse (1968) (USA) 6.9 610
Amico, stammi lontano almeno un palmo (1972)
…aka Amigo, Stay Away (1972) (USA)
…aka Ben and Charlie (1972)
…aka Ben e Charlie (1972)
…aka Fais attention Ben, Charlie arrive (1973) (France)
…aka Humpty Dumpty Gang (1972) (USA)
…aka Méfie-toi Ben, Charlie veut ta peau (1973) (France) 6.9 55
Mercenario, Il (1968)
…aka Mercenary, The (1970) (USA)
…aka Professional Gun, A (1968)
…aka Professional Gun, A (1970) (Europe: English title) (UK)
…aka Revenge of a Gunfighter (1970) (USA)
…aka Salario para matar (1968) (Spain) 6.9 340
Crudeli, I (1967)
…aka Cruel Ones, The (1967) (USA)
…aka Despiadados, Los (1967) (Spain)
…aka Hellbenders, The (1967) (USA) 6.9 143
Ritorno di Ringo, Il (1965)
…aka Angry Gun, The (1965) (Australia: video title)
…aka Angry Gun, The (1986) (UK: video title)
…aka Retorno de Ringo, El (1965) (Spain)
…aka Return of Ringo, The (1970) (UK) 6.9 98
28 Ehi amico… c’è Sabata, hai chiuso! (1969)
…aka Sabata (1969) (Italy) (Philippines: English title) 6.8 520
Bandidos (1967)
…aka Crepa tu… che vivo io (1967) (Italy)
…aka You Die… But I Live (1967) 6.8 74
Soleil rouge (1971)
…aka Magnificient Three, The (1984) (Philippines: English title)
…aka Red Sun (1972) (USA)
…aka Sole rosso (1971) (Italy) 6.8 1088
31 Sono Sartana, il vostro becchino (1969)
…aka Angel of Death: Sartana (1969) (Australia: video box title)
…aka I Am Sartana Your Angel of Death (1969) (Australia: video title)
…aka I’ll Dig Your Grave (1969)
…aka Sartana the Gravedigger (1969) (USA) 6.7 91
Requiescant (1967)
…aka Kill and Pray (1967)
…aka Kill and Say Your Prayers (1967)
…aka Let Them Rest (1967)
…aka Mögen sie in Frieden ruhen (1967) (West Germany) 6.7 74
33 Se sei vivo spara (1967)
…aka Django, Kill… If You Live, Shoot! (1967)
…aka Oro hondo (1967) (Italy: video title)
…aka Oro maldito (1967) (Spain) 6.6 358
Pistola per Ringo, Una (1965)
…aka Ballad of Death Valley (1966) (USA)
…aka Pistol for Ringo, A (1966) (UK)
…aka Pistola para Ringo, Una (1965) (Spain)
…aka Ringo: The Killer (1965) (International: English title) 6.6 100
35 Blindman (1971)
…aka Cieco, Il (1971) (Italy)
…aka Pistolero cieco, Il (1971) (Italy) 6.5 155
Tepepa (1968)
…aka Blood and Guns (1979) (USA: video title)
…aka Long Live the Revolution (1979) (USA)
…aka Tepepa… Viva la revolución (1968) (Spain) 6.5 103
Condenados a vivir (1972)
…aka Bronson’s Revenge (1972) (USA: video title)
…aka Cut-Throats Nine (1972) (USA) 6.5 145
Ognuno per se (1968)
…aka Every Man for Himself (1968) (UK)
…aka Gold von Sam Cooper, Das (1968) (West Germany)
…aka Goldseekers, The (1968)
…aka Ruthless Four, The (1970) (USA)
…aka Sam Cooper’s Gold (1968) 6.5 76
39 Quella sporca storia nel west (1968)
…aka Johnny Hamlet (1972) (USA)
…aka That Dirty Story of the West (1968) (International: English title: informal literal title) 6.4 59
Mannaja (1977)
…aka Man Called Blade, A (1977) (USA) 6.4 282
Tempo di massacro (1966)
…aka Brute and the Beast, The (1966)
…aka Colt Concert (1966)
…aka Colt cantarono la morte, Le (1966)
…aka Massacre Time (1966) 6.4 228
Pistolero dell’Ave Maria, Il (1969)
…aka Forgotten Pistolero (1969) (USA)
…aka Gunman of Ave Maria (1969) (USA)
…aka Tierra de gigantes (1970) (Spain) 6.4 61
Viva Maria! (1965) 6.4 654
Lunghi giorni della vendetta, I (1967)
…aka Days of Vengeance (1967) (International: English title)
…aka Deadliest Gunfight, The (1967) (International: English title)
…aka Faccia d’angelo (1967) (Italy)
…aka Largos días de la venganza, Los (1969) (Spain)
…aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967) (USA)
…aka Longs jours de la vengeance, Les (1968) (France)
…aka Vendetta (1967) (International: English title: poster title)


(Yodlaf Peterson) #11

I totally agree


(Lode) #12

Ratings mean nothing. The main thing is that we love the flics…


(scherpschutter) #13

@mrchallenge
I’m not challenging you, certainly don’t want to offend you, not even want to be rude, but …
Like our Frank Wolff impersonator I don’t care much for IMdb ratings.
Let me tell you a story …
I never liked the TV series DEADWOOD and wondered why so many people did. So I started reading those comments on IMdb and found out that quite a lot of them were negative. So I suppose there was an organized crime to influence the rating of the series. It’s easy to do and it’s done all the time for programs like “Idol”. So no, dear friend, I do NOT trust those ratings and I do NOT care much for them.
But SE INCONTRI SARTANA … PREGA PER LA TUA MORTE is an excellent spaghetti, so I’ll give it an 8 tonight.
Or would that be …
Vade retro, Sa®tana


(SARTANA DJANGO BALLADS) #14

Mr Challenge that was very industrious of you to post such a detailed IMDB SW list(s)).

Your idea and campaign to boost the SARTANA classic film ratings is a GOOD IDEA.

I am sorry you had some negative/unhelpful replies but you can COUNT ON ME.

I am fully registered on IMDB and a regular voter and I was giving SARTANA 10 anyway.

We must at all times FIGHT CHALLENGE and SEEK CHANGE when we spot unfair reviews

Good luck… :wink:


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #15

Thank you Sartana Django!

I"m just appalled how such a classic movie slips through the cracks of imdb voters. Every bit helps. This is one way in which I show my support and love for SW’s.


(Hud) #16

Sorry, can’t take part in the campaign because I already gave the movie 10 out of 10 before I knew about it! I was also annoyed by the low rating and the idea that some people can take it seriously and never bother to see Parolini’s western - this is the kind of cult movie that even the cult movie books rarely talk about, let alone mainstream film guides. Well, maybe my rating could have been 9 or 8 but I love the film and it glides in and out of my SW top ten that’s never permanently fixed…


(Col. Douglas Mortimer) #17

What I don’t understand is why this movie has the lowest rating out of all the Sartana movies, even though it is widely regarded as the best in the series.

I realize the Sartana series isn’t everybody’s cup of tea but the first movie is too classic to be rated only 5.7. Especially when Angel of Death is rated 6.8!


(scherpschutter) #18

I’m not sure, but maybe most people who voted are more fond of the comedy SWs. Today most fans like their SWs tough and violent, but in the seventies, when those films were popular among filmgoers, it was the other way around. With shooting organs, sewing machines etc. Carnimeo’s Sartanas play of more or less like comedies, while Parolini’s film, although not without ironic touches, still looks very violent; several gangs of outlaws are wiped out before the film really gets started!


(sartana1968) #19

i give sartana 11 out of 10 8)


(Drifting Avenger!) #20

[quote=“Col. Douglas Mortimer, post:1, topic:716”]Haha seriously I am just annoyed that “If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death” (The first one) has been rated only 5.6 by a mere 73 IMDB voters. This is the lowest rating out of all the Sartana movies. I don’t think one of the most popular, talked about, and influencial SW’s of all time should be rated so low by so few. I think this movie deserves at least a 6. 2 and should have well over 100 voters. Some lesser known movies even have more votes than Sartana.

That is why I would like to start a Sartana voting compaign. I urge all members of this forum who enjoyed the first Sartana movie to register or log on to imdb.com and give the movie a 10 out of 10 rating. Hopefully together we can raise the average rating to a level that more accurately evaluates the greatness of this classic SW. This movie is obviously not on par with the Leone movies, but its a classic SW nevertheless and deserves more support on imdb.

Are you with me Amigos?[/quote]

IMDB sucks. Bullet for the General with only 6.9 stars?