sounds good to me
Do we have a policy about the bootleg and public domain releases? Should they be included on the database or not? Personally I think we could add good quality releases of films with no official dvd and make a clear note that itâs not official release. Public domain releases are quite unpleasant to add since some films have been released thousand times by different companies and always in bad quality.
Another problem is that itâs quite difficult to know which releases are bootlegs and which official while listing Brazilian or South-African releases etc.
[quote=âBill san Antonio, post:22, topic:479â]Do we have a policy about the bootleg and public domain releases? Should they be included on the database or not? Personally I think we could add good quality releases of films with no official dvd and make a clear note that itâs not official release. Public domain releases are quite unpleasant to add since some films have been released thousand times by different companies and always in bad quality.
Another problem is that itâs quite difficult to know which releases are bootlegs and which official while listing Brazilian or South-African releases etc.[/quote]
i think âtheseâ releases should be listed as companies like alfa digital and stopgapdvd has put great effort into their releases.
maybe then they could be removed or considered obsolete when / if an official release becomes available.
technically, even Wild East are bootlegs. All they do is release films that nobody owns a copyright to in the United States. They just do it professionally 
yeah I think we should include them. but maybe not under âUSAâ or so but in a seperate header âbootlegsâ or âalternative releasesâ
currently, most of the links to the sub pages say âDVDinformationâ, I think we should change them to âAvailable DVDsâ or something, that soulds more like what weâre doing, and weâre also calling the links like that at The Deuce.
thoughts?
Maybe âDVD Releasesâ would be more accurate.
Unfortunately, as we all know, sometimes just because a DVD has been released doesnât mean it is still available. Iâm thinking of OOP Wild East releases in particular.
Yeah, you are right. Letâs do it this way.
I might be rather stupid or clumsy, but I find it hard to navigate on the site
I find all kind of links concerning titles on the Main Page, but no link to a workable list (or lists) of filmtitles
The first thing I always do when I enter a film site, be it a German, English, French or Italian one, is to look for a list/lists of reviews, not reviews of DVDs, but of the movies
If there is additional info on DVDs thatâs fine, but itâs not essential, at least not in the first place
Since most people who visit the site will be able to speak either English or German, itâs seems logical that a prominent link is presented on the main page to a list of English & German titles
Since the SW is mainly a Southern European genre, a link to a list of original titles seems appropriate (most of the time Italian, but not necessarily so)
If somebody canât find the movie heâs looking for, he can be directed to articles like âtitle chaosâ or âalternative French, Italian, Spanish, Swahili titlesâ etc.
Furthermore Iâd advice you to bring together the info on the movies
It all looks cut up into tiny bits: Film Page, DVD page, Review Page, English review, German Review âŚ
I know there are cross-links, but there is no real starting point
My idea would be ONE page for a movie as a starting point
ORIGINAL TITLE
(Other titles)
with a film revies (if available) in English
(Link to review in German)
DVD info
List of available DVDs (with links to DVD info; this info should be uniquely on the DVD, so donât add a knew film review)
Example
PER QUALCHE DOLLARI IN PIU
English title, German title, French title, Spanish title etc.
Film Review in English : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sebastian 90-5O-4335
German film review (link)
DVDâs
British DVD (link to info)
German DVD
Danish DVD
Italian DVD
Spanish DVD
(It would be wise, I suppose, to make one page per movie with all available info/reviews on the DVDs)
Pages with list of DVDs from specific companies or retailers can still be usefull; you can make links from these pages to the info/reviews
I donât quite get what you mean. I think the site works fine now and the additional info on every individual film is easily accessible from the bar on the right below the picture.
But I guess we could improve the âbrowse allâ section. I liked it better when it was accessible from the navigation bar on the right. Now you have to come back to main page every time to look for it.
Another thing: I decided âThree Bullets for Ringoâ as March focus film, so that we can work on 
3 colpi di Winchester per Ringo - The Spaghetti Western Database
[quote=âBill san Antonio, post:29, topic:479â]I donât quite get what you mean. I think the site works fine now and the additional info on every individual film is easily accessible from the bar on the right below the picture.
But I guess we could improve the âbrowse allâ section. I liked it better when it was accessible from the navigation bar on the right. Now you have to come back to main page every time to look for it.[/quote]
Like I said: I might be stupid (or worse), but I donât find that prominent link to a list of International/English/German titles on the Main Page
Under NAVIGATION (on the left) there should at least be a title FILM REVIEWS (or simply FILMS)
The idea would be this (> = click):
FILM REVIEWS (FILMS) >
ORIGINAL TITLES
ENGLISH TITLES
GERMAN TITLES
(+ if you wish, lists like ALTERNATIVE I/G/F/S/D/NL/E TITLES or TITLE CHAOS)
Of course you can click on all these
Example:
ORIGINAL TITLES >
PER QUALCHE DOLLARI IN PIU
(page as described in previous post)
Note: I know there is this SEARCH and GO function, and BROWSE ALL
But sometimes people donât know the name of the movie theyâre looking for, or (in my case) they like to scroll title lists and to click here and there
The BROWSE ALL function doesnât really work for me
Ok, this sounds reasonable. Maybe easiest way to help this kind of browsing would be adding link to alphabetical list of films to navigation bar. This for example:
http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/English_Titles
good idea, Lode.
as to the film lists, click Browse All, and you find most ways to navigate thsi page, including a (imperfect) list of ALL pages on this website, then there are tons of alphabetical lists
and the pages are mostly set up the way you described, with the reviews and dvd infos outsourced, because they take up so much space, but please keep the feedback coming, i am sure thereâs tons of room for improvement
@ BILL
Thatâs what I meant
@ Sebastian
I know there are tons of alphabetical lists, but thatâs exactly my problem
I site like this should be built up in network form, starting from a few essential lists
Browse all can be usefull, as an overview, not as a starting point
If you have reviews and dvdinfo outsourced, than at least there should be a link to them in NAVIGATION; right now there are terms under navigation that simply shouldnât be there.
The navigation should be more or less like this:
MAIN PAGE
FORUM
FILMS
DVDs
Recent Changes
HELP
(If we would have biographies on directors and actors, also:
ACTORS
DIRECTORS)
That seems essential navigation to me, good starting points
When I click (just an example) DVDs I would expect to find things like:
DVD REVIEWS (English)
DVD REVIEWS (German)
COMPANIES/RETAILERS
well if you put actors and direcors in the navigation menu, why not cinematographers and the people who bring coffee to the set 
and which list should be a a starting point? i think itâs fairly easy to get to the one youâre looking for.
and an entry âDVDsâ in the navigation menu, well⌠we essentially have that on the main page at the topâŚ
an entry âfilmsâ seems redundant to me since the site is nothing but⌠films
i donât see how âbrowse allâŚâ canât be a starting point. what is a starting point to you? if youâre looking for a film, just do a quick search, pick a category, or âInternational titlesâ lists and pick the one from your countryâŚ
DVD Sub Pages
I am pleased with the current pages which are informative and logical.
Thank you to everyone who has worked on these Dvd Pages, much appreciated.
so should we cal it âAvailable DVDsâ or âDVD Releasesâ or what? right now itâs a big inconsistent
[quote=âSebastian, post:35, topic:479â]well if you put actors and direcors in the navigation menu, why not cinematographers and the people who bring coffee to the set
and which list should be a a starting point? i think itâs fairly easy to get to the one youâre looking for.
and an entry âDVDsâ in the navigation menu, well⌠we essentially have that on the main page at the topâŚ
an entry âfilmsâ seems redundant to me since the site is nothing but⌠films
i donât see how âbrowse allâŚâ canât be a starting point. what is a starting point to you? if youâre looking for a film, just do a quick search, pick a category, or âInternational titlesâ lists and pick the one from your countryâŚ[/quote]
ad a) I think Directors and actors are most essential to most readers/fans, most sites have links to them, hardly any to cinematographers etc
ad b) starting points should be on the Main Page, most essential starting points seem to me things like TITLES / REVIEWS / DVDs / ACTORS / DIRECTORS not things like random page and the likes. I donât think itâs that easy to find what you want, last week I wanted to check whether it was useful for me to write a review on Tepepa; first I couldnât find it (original titles?), then I was directed to several places, sometimes on the same page (thatâs what I meant with bringing info together)
ad c) I know you have DVDs on top, but thatâs another problem: you have Navigation on the left, Info on top and some other info (DVD Reviews!) in the middle, not too far on the left âŚ
ad d) I mean FILM as a link to a list of film titles, REVIEW as a link to a list of filmreviews, DVD reviews as a link to a list of reviews of specific DVDs etc. Of course weâre talking about movies here, even the books that are discussed are about movies, I suppose
ad e) Browse all is an overview, not a starting point
Looking for specific info on a person or film in an overview, is like looking for specific info on a person of film in the table of contents in a book, not very practical; good books offer their readers a good index and/or listing of titles/names
By the way: Iâm not attacking anybody
I also appreciate everybodyâs efforts
Hopefully nobody thinks otherwise
I appreciate you input. I will of course consider it, I am extremely happy weâre in fact having this discussion
btw, typing in âtepepaâ in the search bar, brings you right to the tepepa page
on your point âdâ (FILM), you are talking about a list of film titles. Which ones? all of them? italian titles? english titles?
[quote=âSebastian, post:39, topic:479â]I appreciate you input. I will of course consider it, I am extremely happy weâre in fact having this discussion
btw, typing in âtepepaâ in the search bar, brings you right to the tepepa page
on your point âdâ (FILM), you are talking about a list of film titles. Which ones? all of them? italian titles? english titles?[/quote]
Iâll send you a text for a Tepepa review tomorrow or the day after tomorrow
See if itâs useful
I know entering âTepepaâ in the search bar directs me to where I want to be, but like I said before, people donât always know the exact title and some people (like me) prefer to scroll title lists in search of a movie
I donât know why Iâm so fond of title lists, but I am
From FILM you should (in my opinion) be directed to a list of:
INTERNATIONAL TITLES (usually Italian, but not necessarily so)
ENGLISH TITLES
GERMAN TITLES
I think those titles and lists of titles are useful because theyâre good STARTING POINTS for links to additional info, about DVDs, DVD reviews, soundtrack CDs, directors, actors etc. You gotta start somewhere, and I think a film title is the most logical starting point