For a Few Dollars More / Per qualche dollaro in più (Sergio Leone, 1965)

Great concept. Everyone would pack into the movie theatres for it.
The prequel could feature the guy that betrayed Indio and possibly a subplot as to why Sancho Perez ended up behind bars.

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As already mentioned in the thread, the comment by Clint that he is going to buy a little place and settle down sounds really awkward. :laughing:

In FOD he is a drifter with a mysterious past, he knew someone like Marisol once, and he doesn’t admire peace since “it’s hard to like something you know nothing about”, as he says to Ramon.

In FAFDM he is a rather ruthless bounty hunter, but we learn that he dreams of eventually having a ranch or something like that.

In GBU he is more of a con man who teams up with Tuco to collect rewards over and over, but after a while he doesn’t think that Tuco will ever be worth more than 3000 dollars.

The character is obviously the same, with some variation, but the films are of course not sequels, but FAFDM is the weakest film of the trilogy.

You also mentioned that Lee van Cleef looks much older than Clint despite not being that much older in reality. They probably made him look older in this film since he played an older character, Colonel Mortimer. Van Cleef looks younger as the Bad in GBU.

You and I see things completely the opposite. :laughing:

FOD is the weakest, by far, imho because it was a complete rip off of Kurosawa. I hate plagarism.

GBU, while a classic, was Leone’s ego driven attempt to be thought of as a master. It would have been even better with a bit of useless bits cut out. (Not a popular opinion around here on my part though).

FAFDM, to quote Goldilocks, was juuuussst right. Leone did everything right in that film and it is his best film.

Just my opinion. :wink:

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I like the Catholic stuff in FAFDM. The bandits hang out in an abandoned church. Indio standing in a pulpit. The church organ in Morricones piece La resa dei conti. :smile:

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Does anyone out there have both the US and the Italian 4K UHD of this, I wonder how they differ (transfer, colors, cuts…)

In the Mortimer introduction episode in FAFDM he has a wanted poster with some dude’s face on it. But when Mortimer catches up with this dude in Tucumcari he doesn’t look at all like the poster.

The dude is Ringo, not the Angel face Ringo of Giuliano Gemma, but the complete opposite, the one with the ugly teeth in Django (1966). :laughing:

What’s with this?

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I think it’s because the original actor got hurt when he jumped from the balcony. So they changed the actor but didn’t change the wanted poster.

Ah, I see.

Mortimer also has an arsenal of special weapons in his saddle bags, that is very spaghetti-esque.

There is no machine gun in FAFDM though, machine guns are very spaghetti-esque as well.

Ramon started the craze for machine guns in FOD, and thereafter there were often machine guns featured in these films.

Volonte says in ABFTG that the machine gun they got is “lovelier than any woman”. :laughing:

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https://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Per_qualche_dollaro_in_più/BluRay#Spain

Who’ll be getting this? I am considering… who knows when UK/Germany etc will follow, I may be impatient :slight_smile:

Rewatched this one for the millionth time today. This is THE spaghetti western and the peak of the western genre imo. I rewatch it every time I get a western itch - Might be my most rewatched movie ever.

It balances all the elements the SW genre is known for perfectly - the violent operatic action, the theatrical performances, the gray morality/moral ambiguity, the cynicism, the playfulness, the dirty environments, the fast paced straight to the point visual storytelling with minimal dialogue, the Spanish filming locations and sets, Mixing US and Mexico aesthetics in an almost cartoony way, the badass stoic mysterious stylish larger-than-life characters and the cartoonishly over-the-top plot.

It is not perfect however, the Agua Caliente filming location isn’t great and was always a bit immersion breaking. This is understandable since it came out in 1965, but its a flaw. Spaghetti westerns always struggled a bit with filming locations and this is no exception. ̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶2̶0̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶u̶t̶e̶s̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶w̶e̶r̶e̶n̶’̶t̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶l̶m̶ ̶t̶o̶o̶ ̶i̶m̶o̶.̶ ̶A̶ ̶F̶i̶s̶t̶f̶u̶l̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶D̶o̶l̶l̶a̶r̶s̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶l̶e̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶g̶u̶y̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶p̶t̶u̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶e̶s̶c̶a̶p̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶k̶i̶l̶l̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶e̶t̶t̶e̶r̶.̶ ̶Still - one of my favorite films of all-time despite its imperfections near the end.

November Edit: Striked out an opinion that has changed.

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Hammerfist.

A beautiful, accurate, heart-felt summary of ‘FAFDM’.

The film, no matter how you look at it, has more highs than lows.

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thank you!

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There surely is no doubt about that and the highs are very high …

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I’ve just been looking through the internet and found these pics of ‘FAFDM’.

The top one is obviously lifted from the film, but the bottom location one was only taken by someone two years ago, in 2022.

I don’t know what has happened to re-build the wall (if anything), but one thing is clear…the part which had remnants of the bullet holes where Manco is shot at by Indio’s gang, was clearly a casualty of the collapse, and gone forever by the looks of it.


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Looks like a truck might have grazed the wall passing by, or the building was just really old. Is someone in touch with Manuel from the Hostal to ask? :wink:

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the whole area lost it’s FFDM vibe unfortunately. I wouldn’t recognize it if it wasn’t put side by side. The time between the creation of these films and today is about as long as the time between the creation of these films and the actual wild west. Let that sink it.