[quote=“Stanton, post:245, topic:795”]That’s most likely the VHS tape we all have. Everyone who wants it can trade it with someone.
Apart from that it is very likely that Tijuana versions using the Rai version will appear sooner or later.[/quote]
The bootleg also has restored scenes from the Italian version, so it goes from English into the Italian language. I wouldn’t mind a copy of the original tape but I don’t have anything to trade at the moment.
That’s another one, based of course on the first one.
There’s also a 2,35:1 one, but it seems that it was masked a little bit, which looks odd in places. And a complete 8 min part was cut out for unknown reasons.
But then, the Rai version will be the new reference version, until a real DVD appears.
[quote=“Stanton, post:247, topic:795”]That’s another one, based of course on the first one.
There’s also a 2,35:1 one, but it seems that it was masked a little bit, which looks odd in places. And a complete 8 min part was cut out for unknown reasons.
But then, the Rai version will be the new reference version, until a real DVD appears.[/quote]
It looks like the best quality version, yes, but I’m quite happy with the bootleg I have. I don’t think I’ll be buying any other copies (maybe the original VHS tape) until an official DVD comes out.
Buying? Why do you buy such stuff when you can trade it?
I have all 3 previous versions, and none of them bought, all traded.
I would never buy a bootleg, and trading this stuff is so easy.
[quote=“Stanton, post:249, topic:795”]Buying? Why do you buy such stuff when you can trade it?
I have all 3 previous versions, and none of them bought, all traded.
I would never buy a bootleg, and trading this stuff is so easy.[/quote]
Well I’m new to this website. I don’t think I have anything to trade though. I think that I’ll have to get myself a decent DVD recorder since the one I have isn’t very good.
The SWDb entry of La taglia è tua … l’uomo l’ammazzo io credits Fabrizio Gianni with the part of Fernando and Gustavo Re with the role of “Specs” (aka the “Professor”). I am, however, quite sure that Re plays Fernando – but unsure about Gianni’s part. The IMDb lists the “Professor” in La taglia è tua … as his only acting credit, and apparently he co-wrote the screenplay. Information about Gianni is hard to find: reportedly, he worked as Sergio Leone’s assistant on Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo, left the movie business in the 1970s, and became a fashion photographer (cf. The Scotsman and The Falkirk Herald; in his biography on Leone, Christopher Frayling doesn’t mention him in the main text, but lists him in the appendix as “director’s assistant” on Il buono …, whereas the movie’s [English] title sequence identifies him and Giancarlo Santi as “assistant directors”). It would be interesting to find out a little more about this rather enigmatic man – first and foremost whether he played “Specs” or not.
Strange, I thought that members of this forum would be able to provide more information about Fabrizio Gianni. Anyhow, concerning the SWDb entry: it is safe to say that “El Puro’s” elderly companion Fernando is played by Gustavo Re.
Sorry to stress the point – but maybe the credits in the database entry for La taglia è tua … could be changed accordingly?
A recent photo of Fabrizio Gianni:
Taking into account the years that have passed, I think it might be Gianni who played “Specs” (the “Professor”). What do you think?
Genre expert Christian Keßler thinks that Gianni played Fernando. I don’t know.
Thanks, stanton! But isn’t it obvious from the picture that Re played Fernando? I think so.
Nice picture of fashion designer Fabrizio Gianni. Or is that the same guy?
EDIT: Never mind, apparently it is. Wonders never cease.
If we think about it Fabrizio Gianni - also author of story and screenplay as well as assistant director on The Good, The Bad and The Ugly and Hate Is My God - could be the true brains behind the movie.
Not counting the equally incomplete 107 minutes version, another cut available on YouTube with English credits redone on a black background and Portuguese audio is longer (101 minutes), but despite this is missing a few scenes just after the opening credits. For the moment I haven’t had time to detect the other differences.
In what way is the 107 min version incomplete?
This Portuguese version has at least the benefit to start with the same great shot as the 98 min version, while the 107 min version spoils this fantastic opening.
In order to respond appropriately one should have seen the other thirteen minutes of the original Italian version.
This source says 121 minutes (durata), but the runtime must be rounded down to 120.
http://www.cinematografo.it/cinedatabase/film/la-taglia--tua-luomo-lammazzo-io/21522/
Ok, but then again, does this version really exist?
Was the film ever shown with that length theatrically?
I would love to see it, but I doubt that it exists.
I still don’t understand why there should be so many longer versions of presumably uncut DVD editions. Where are all these versions? How could they all get lost?
Necessarily, the movie was released immediately after the authorization and a public screening with a modified cut was not permitted.
I have seen the French release, an English audio version (94 minutes) and a Portuguese audio version (104 minutes). They all open the same: A close up of Cassidy and Specs just before Cassidy frees Gypsy. How is the other opening?
I have no idea. Found this though on
http://onceuponatimeinawestern.com/el-puro-1969/gustavo-re-as-specs/
Yes, that’s what you always say, but is there anybody who can confirm for sure that this version ever existed? And why is this version not the one shown on TV?
Which was the restored version which Tarantino presented in Venice a few years ago?
If you are right, what happened to all these longer versions?
In Germany, in the USA, in France, probably in every country in our world there is one version which was released theatrically, and with a few exceptions this is the version which was shown on TV, released on VHS, released on DVD and Blu, and was also used for theatrical re-releases. There are some exceptions when films were re-released slightly cut for a lower FSK rating, and later this re-release versions was the one that survived, but in the most cases the original version remained intact, and is now easy to restore for the home video releases.
I doubt that in Italy so many original versions disappeared, and only much shorter versions, much different versions survived.
Jonathan, if you are right there must be an explanation for this unusual circumstances.
At least we have now prove that the original theatrical release of GBU was slightly different than the actual home video versions The longer torture scene was indeed part of it. And in the case of Massacre Time we know that a so called second version is the basis for the home video releases.
But are these the exceptions, or are these the rule?
The Portuguese version is 101:07 min. It leaves out altogether a sequence after the gang jumps off the coach and before Gypsy enters the store. It is 7:53 min. This adds up to 109 minutes exactly. The sequence left out contains the scene where Tim rapes a young girl, a scene with the gang stealing horses at a ranch, a scene with the gang in the chapel and the scene introducing El Puro where he is thrown out of the saloon and then taken in by Rosie.
