Django Kill … If You Live, Shoot! / Se sei vivo spara (Giulio Questi, 1967)

[quote=“scherpschutter, post:131, topic:299”]A well-written review

I also interpreted Milian’s character as a reference to Jesus
Early on in the movie (actually after a few minutes, if I’m not mistaken), there’s an upside-down shot, with Milian rolling over the ground. Because it is upside down, we have the idea he is rolling over (or in) the sky (or falling from heaven)

The black muchachos are probably a reference to Musolini’s black coats, the town a reference to the town of Salo, in the north of Italy (at Lake Garda), the capital of Musolini’s ‘empire in the North’ after he was re-installed by the Germans (the Italians had chased him). This empire in the north is one of the darkest pages in Italian history, a period of depravation and total decay (Pasolini’s movie Salò or the 120 days of Sodom also refers to this period). A film is of course not just a series of references, and usually the interpretatuon of them is not essential, but in this case it we’re dealing with a highly symbolic film

I’m not sure about this (haven’t seen the film in a while), but I guess the Italian title, Se sei vivo, spara! (If you live, shoot!) is a line said by one of the bandits when they arrive in town: they see Milian, a man who must be dead.[/quote]

It was of course a bitter civil war between Italians the years 1943 to 1945, but Pasolini’s film Salò or the 120 days of Sodom has nothing to do with Repubblica Sociale Italiana (RSI), as Mussolini’s new northern fascist state was called

Pasolini was a communist, a homosexual, and a pervert. The film Salò film is a mixture of Markis de Sade’s book Les 120 journées de Sodome and Pasolini’s own sick fantasies

Some of Mussolini’s ‘black coats’ of the RSI:

Here is a nice newsreel about the liberation of Mussolini :slight_smile:

[url]- YouTube

Mussolini was being imprisoned at the Campo Imperatore Hotel in Italy’s Gran Sasso in the Apennine Mountains, a place which could only be reached by cable car

The Germans sent in a team of paratroops and Waffen SS to rescue him, they were also accompanied by an Italian general

They approached their objective using glider aircraft and were able to overwhelm it without a single shot being fired, Mussolini was then transported off the Gran Sasso in a small Fiesler Storch airplane

The Campo Imperatore Hotel

The cable car leading up to the hotel

One of the gliders

Fiesler Storch

Musolini’s Facist black shirts were the inspiration for Zorro’s Muchachos.

Regarding the (possible) Jesus references, might this explain Milian’s headband? Maybe a reference to the crown of thorns.

Django Kill was really good,

I noticed someone wrote they didnt like the indians much I did Untill the other towns people started noticing them I thought it would of been really interesting if the indians only interacted with Tomas Milans character that way it would of made you think maybe there just in his head

That for me would of been the icing on the cake for the film but they didnt go in that direction

Still good movie though

I think the last time I watched this movie I decided it was some sort of satiric joke. Almost a spoof of soap operas. Milian often has a knowing, grin on his face as he strolls through all these bizzare melodramatic happenings.

That’s definitely a way to look at it, there are scenes that could be interpreted as hints at soap operas.

I love this twisted Spag western; everybody except for Tomas Milan was so diabolically evil and cruel. My favorite scene was when the town folks started to pull gold bullets out of man fighting for his life. Was this the 1st unofficial sequel to Django.

god no, by 1967 there were dozens of spags that had the “django” name in it.

It’s not really a sequel.
In Italy there was no mentioning of Django in the title (Se sei vivo spara) nor in the film. Only for the international versions the title was changed to Django Kills. But in these the name Django also isn’t used throughout the film, which means Milian remains nameless.

I wish they had cut the “Django” from the title in the last R1 dvd. It just confuses some people about the movie.

I didn’t enjoy this movie so much, but after reading some of the comments, maybe I need to see it again. Also, when I saw it I didn’t have as much affection for Milian as I do now, so my attitude could be subject to change.

You need to approach the film without thinking you are going to see a traditional western, or a traditional movie for that matter.

I often now find myself constantly rewatching this Spaghetti I know I’ve never liked. But for some reason, the sour taste doesn’t stay long. I come away with different feelings each time. This time, I was a little more impressed. Maybe because I watched it as a individual film instead of another spaghetti western. And on that level, it’s very good.

I haven’t seen this film for a long time now, but I remember enjoying it in a weird way. I found it quite aimless at times but for some reason I was completely engrossed. The violence might be the most graphic I’ve seen in a Spaghetti so far, I was especially surprised at pulling the bullets out of the body. I also thought the scalping was well done. I actually thought the Indians were a good addition to the movie, I think Milan’s quest wasn’t really about anything central to the story but more so like he was serving a higher purpose. Almost like he was a ghost, like another user said it seems to be more a statement about people then a coherent story.

Gets better the more you watch it. Definitely some rich content that could easily be overlooked if you lack the patience to watch it several times.

Django Kill, if You Live Shoot! (Questi/67)

“Django Kill, if You Live, Shoot!” (1967) directed by Giulio Questi and starring Tomas Milian, is probably one the most bizarre and strangest Spaghetti Westerns ever made. Yet the screenplay, by Franco Arcalli and Franco Arcalli, at first glance, seems to travel the same well trodden path of many other Spaghetti Westerns:

Milian (who is simply called the Stranger) is double crossed by Oaks (Piero Lulli) when his gang raids a Wells Fargo stagecoach guarded by the US army; shot, buried and left for dead; he climbs out his grave with the help of two Indians and seeks revenge on his fellow thieves. They are to be found in a nameless town run by a black clad bandit and his men, who battle against the murderous inhabitants, who kill Oaks, to claim the gold for themselves.

It begins very strangely: a hand sticking out of the ground as Milian seeks to free himself from his shallow burial; a flashback soon kicks in, and apart from some brilliant, razor sharp editing courtesy of Franco Arcalli, it appears we are in normal territory for the genre. However, as soon as Oaks and his bandits enter the town, we are in a world very much the home of the surrealists. We see a drunk with his foot on a little girl; through a window, a man threatens a woman, who bites him; a naked boy stands next to the street, playing with his penis. No wonder one of Oaks’s henchmen keeps on saying he doesn’t like it there. The Stranger too, has a feeling not everything is as it should be; he stays a night with the three major “families” and his suspicions are confirmed. The first night, he sleeps in the Saloon, home to the devious Tembler (Milo Quesada), his mistress, Flory (Marilu Tolo) and the mentally disturbed Evan (Raymond Lovelock); the second, he stays with Zorro/Sorro/Sorrow (in the English dub, his name is pronounced so that it could be either one; for clarity, I will refer to him as Sorrow, as it is such a great name for a villain) after they have kidnapped Evan, so as to try and extort the gold Tembler got from the murdered Oaks, and his black clad, probably gay, cowboys, where after a banquet, they possibly rape Evan. The Stranger does nothing. The last night, he goes to Alderman Ackerman’s (Paco Sanz) and his mad wife, Elizabeth (Patrizia Valturri), where, after releasing Elizabeth from her locked room to seduce the Stranger, Ackerman steals the Stranger’s gun and shoots Tembler with it for the gold. Recounting these events does not truly convey the weirdness of the film; it’s as far from John Ford’s “Stagecoach” (1938) as is possible to be in the same genre. The photography, editing, lighting (at times it is lit like a horror movie) and directing all work beautifully together to give the feeling of something very off-kilter. The scene where Sorrow tortures the Stranger by placing him Christ-like on a crucifix (not the only piece of religious symbolism in the film) and releasing vampire bats, moles, iguanas and other animals, is peculiar to say the least. Perhaps it’s the censor’s scissors fault, but the viewer is never sure as to why the Stranger is so terrified of these animals moving around. Maybe in the uncut version, they are shown to be feeding on him. In fact, the present version in which you can watch the film is still missing around five minutes; it is down from two hours to one hundred and fifteen minutes; if these precious scenes were to be restored, we would be able to find out if the rumours that uncut, cannibalism and animal butchery are present.

The acting is hard to judge; Milian is certainly very good in a role that is essentially passive for most of the film, his character looking blankly on at greed and cruelty. The actor in later interviews felt ambiguous about his performance, but I find it hard to imagine another person in the role. The rest of the cast act in a somewhat “coarse”, highly stylised way that actually suits the material, however, only the splendid Roberto Camardiel as Sorrow seems to be enjoying himself. A great villain, he has a wonderful talking parrot who appears too little and amuses himself by playing with toy soldiers and having gluttonous feasts with his men. Questi has said that his experiences as an anti-Fascist partisan during World War II in the mountains in Italy, so Sorrow’s black clad bandits, I suppose, are suppose to represent Mussolini’s soldiers and, a large guess this, the townsfolk are standing in for the middle classes of Italy who complacently let a dictator seize power and then did nothing about it. But if the film is a Western “version” of his two years as a rebel, who do the Stranger or Oaks and his men represent? An intriguing question that only adds another layer of mystery on to this film.

Its aforementioned censor ship problems arouse from the violence in the movie. I can understand why, as it certainly is one of the most bloodiest of all Spaghetti Westerns (but it is not without competition; in the later “The Fighting Fists of Shanghai Joe” (1973), a kung-fu Western that is surprisingly good, you see eyes gorged out, arms chopped off and a person falling into a spiked pit, all with luridly red blood). A man’s body is ripped apart by crazed townspeople when they learn he was shot by gold bullets, two people are killed by having molten gold fall on them and there are more hangings and shootings than virtually any other Spaghetti. These goings on are underlined by a fine music score by Ivan Vandor, although he repeats the same rift too many times; this is probably the only flaw in the motion picture.

“Django Kill!” is one of the very best Spaghetti Westerns for its surreal atmosphere, fantastic directing, editing and photography, and layers of meaning.

0 out of 5 from me, this is not a django movie this is nothing
the main character kill 2 people only very strange element’s during the movie
in one scene many gunfighters shoot at piero lulli in a very close and can’t hit him
one of my worst :o even the title was stupid

It looks like you’re in a minority here sartana 1968 (thank goodness for that!).

hmmm yes i’ am

One of my TOP 10 SW.

Very nice US DVD (with those great featurettes, I love
Milian - and Questi :))