Cemetery Without Crosses / Une corde, un colt … (Robert Hossein, 1969)

Yeh - that might be the case. Regardless, Leone is not in it, but he did direct a little piece of it.

This is one I’m missing from my collection. Does anyone know if the Arrow blu-ray is region free and still available?

There is a US and UK edition, so de facto all region, or almost all region

https://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Une_corde,_un_Colt/BluRay

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Just no “original” French audio.

The strange thing is that the title ‘Cimitero senza croci’ had already been decided in November 1967, and maybe even earlier, so why ‘Une corde, un Colt’? :thinking:

one is Italian, the other French. My french sucks, but maybe the literal translation just didn"t have a cool enough ring to it

Yes, but if it was decided (apparently in the plural, perhaps referring to towns) long before filming had commenced it is reasonable to assume that Hossein write it himself…

Pretty much the same in Italian – una corda, una colt.

I think he meant the opposite, Cimetières sans croix.

Ah, okay. Anyway, all four titles sound good to me.

What I’m wondering is if this title, contrary to what is thought, was translated into Italian.

Btw I am watching Cold Sweat and at the beginning there is a scene where the movie is playing on TV

I’d always assumed the French title was the original. Corde and Colt have some nice alliteration going on. Unfortunately “cord” doesn’t quite work in English in this sense and “rope” (as in the English version of the song) doesn’t work with Colt in the same way.

The plural thing with cemetery/cemeteries is weird though. Reminds me of Corbucci’s The Specialist(s)

Well, it is the original title.

Who can help the fella

As I am no meber of this group, what is the question for help?

did Sergio shoot the dinner scene, of course

Finally got to watch this one last weekend after tracking down a version available for streaming on Amazon prime. I was excited for this one considering that it seems to rank pretty highly on most people top SWs list, but it did not live up to expectations for me…and not for the reasons one might think. I don’t mind a slow paced or minimalist film at all, and i don’t think there has to be a lot of gun play or action either for it to be good, so these common criticism of the film weren’t negatives for me. SW are rarely perfect and that is part of the attraction, but there were just too many elements that didn’t come together for me.

There isn’t much to the plot, and we are not given much reason to care about any of the characters…the audience can’t easily identify or relate with them, in part because we know so little about any of the characters. It is also hard to understand the actions of some of the characters. For example, Maria says she doesn’t care about anything anymore now that Ben is gone and only seeks revenge from the Rogers, but the moment she is dying we find out that she really wants to get away from this place, something she had the opportunity to do earlier. Similarly, Manuel initially wants no part of this, but we are made to understand that it is his love for Maria that motivates him to help her…but then he goes through the rest of the story not protecting her or helping her in the way you might for someone you care about (he returns to the ghost town after bringing the kidnapped Roger girl home, rather than check on Maria…even though he must surely know that the Rogers would seek retribution for what was done to the daughter. The actions of Ben’s brothers are also hard to understand, they want to cross the border, but then decide to say at Maria’s request, which suggests that there is a family bond between them (it’s not like she had to try hard to convince them to stay). They also participate in Maria’s revenge plan by raping the Rogers girl. But then the brothers become quasi antagonists, one of them eventually killed by the two lead characters. They had the opportunity to leave the country after trying and failing to capture the Rogers daughter when she escaped out the window of her room, but instead they chose to fight both Maria/Manuel and the Rogers, which seems illogical? Anyway, I realize that this is a much loved film, and I’m not trying to be critical just for the sake of it, but to explain why it didn’t quite meet my expectations, and to see if these things bothered other people or if maybe I misunderstood/missed certain things. To all those that love this movie, do you overlook its flaws because you find the positives so strong, or is it case that you think the issues I pointed out are not really problems at all?

Having said all this, there were some things that were fantastic about this movie. As many have said, the ghost town setting was fantastic (the buildings, the surrounding desert, the mood), as was the spanish Flamenco guitar parts of the score. I can also appreciate that for many this one become better with repeat viewings, so I may not yet appreciate all that it has to offer. Finally, the version I watched seemed 5 minutes shorter than the original, and the quality wasn’t great. i was also interrupted halfway through and watched it over two evenings which often takes you out of the atmosphere created by the movie, so there are a few mitigating factors here.

Manuel is also interesting…Hossein is less charismatic than most of the SW lead actors portraying anti-heroes, but his character displays some intriguing contradictions. For example, his actions are motivated by love (or guilt?) for Maria, he clearly is disgusted by the rape of the Rogers girl, and in the end his final action shows remorse or maybe even a desire to “make things right” and atone for what he has done…all of which suggest that he does have some morality. But he is also the same man that shot and killed those (innocent?) guys in the saloon in cold blood, despite the fact they shared a common enemy (Rogers), just to enable his complex scheme of getting hired by the Rogers (was that really the best way to kidnap the girl?..he could have snuck on the ranch at night, and released the horses just the same, whether he was foreman or not).

Anyway, sorry for the long post, but curious to hear what everyone else thinks about this on this wonderful forum.

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Top 10 for me. Shame about Scott Walker’s “ooooh-ah” - doesn’t really match the tone of the film.

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