Stanton - Since when is WB releasing Paramount titles?
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For a while now. Hereās a scan I took from the back of Hollywood Boulevard.
Some actual Paramount titles are also on Warner Archives now too.
I dunno Seb I have a pretty good Pioneer screen. I just noticed that alot of the scenes looked not much sharper than the dvd. Color contrast is definely an improvement, so is sound, but a few scenes looked kinda soft to me. Definitely a noticeable improvement but not the huge step up that I was expecting.
I thought Magnificent Seven, Outlaw Josey Wales, Big Gundown and For a few dollars more were more of a noticeable step up among my western blu rays.
Even if you look at the screenshot comparisons on dvd beaver, I donāt see that much more added detail over the dvds. But it does look better in motion though, like I said maybe still shots doesnāt do it justice.
Yodlaf, but Paramount still releases their own films?
Thanks guys, pretty much what I figured but was having a hard time tracking down the info on that one.
I wonder why Amazon lists incorrect specs on discs so often (runtime, AR, etc)
well they rely on the bulk import by the retailers, and they dont know shit about the movies they put in there 
They are like the people who drew the posters for spaghetti westerns 
Youād still think that the distributors could get the details of their own releases correctā¦
Stanton - Yodlaf, but Paramount still releases their own films?
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Yes, Warner are just doing back catalogue ones.
Here Here! I think Once Upon A Time in the West is one of the finest blu-rays out there. Simply Stunning!
Here Here! I think Once Upon A Time in the West is one of the finest blu-rays out there. Simply Stunning!
I still donāt have the disc yet, but basically sums up all the reviews Iāve read about the release.
Essential Blu Ray for the best film ever made.
No.
Itās still cut in the first scene, contains a scene which destroys partly the narrative brilliance of the beginning and has the wrong closing music.
Apart from that some/many say that the colors are not how they should be. Letās see how the new Italian Blu looks (which wonāt have English audio)
Yeah, I did read some comments about that incorrect scene insertion and the slight cut. One reviewer stated that the incorrect scene ruins what that sequence should be. Iāve never seen this original theatrical cut and Iām not sure I know what the referenced scene is (didnāt look too deeply into it yet), so Iām really not sure how the differences compare.
If thereās no English audio on the Italian release, Iām sure I wonāt want to buy it since it will probably cost a lot and no English on this film is a deal breaker for me.
Wonder if thereās any chance of these errors ever being corrected. From what Iāve read, they were originally done a long time ago (maybe for laserdisc release) and never fixed
[quote=āautephex, post:853, topic:660ā]Yeah, I did read some comments about that incorrect scene insertion and the slight cut. One reviewer stated that the incorrect scene ruins what that sequence should be. Iāve never seen this original theatrical cut and Iām not sure I know what the referenced scene is (didnāt look too deeply into it yet), so Iām really not sure how the differences compare.
If thereās no English audio on the Italian release, Iām sure I wonāt want to buy it since it will probably cost a lot and no English on this film is a deal breaker for me.
Wonder if thereās any chance of these errors ever being corrected. From what Iāve read, they were originally done a long time ago (maybe for laserdisc release) and never fixed[/quote]
Hey sometimes I like being in the darkā¦you know that saying āIgnorance is blissā ;D If I donāt know about any wrong scene insertions or slight cuts then Iām good
Hey sometimes I like being in the dark....you know that saying "Ignorance is bliss" ;D If I don't know about any wrong scene insertions or slight cuts then I'm good :)
Yeah, but now I know and its gonna bug me 
Actually, I may consider getting the Italian release if it fixes these issues and is equal/better picture quality, and then just add the English track to a burned copy. Iām still new enough to blu ray that I forget these kinds of things can be done with it just like DVDs.
It doesnāt ruin anything, but it hurts the film a bit.
Just skip the short scene after the railway station shoot-out, which informs you that Bronson has survived, which without this scene you would not know for sure for the next 25 min. The āslight cutā are 70 additional sec of the 3 men waiting at Cattle Corner.
The so called Scorsese restoration (also on the Blu Ray) only put 15 sec of them back. But most mysteriously the wrong closing music is still there. And that little scene (mostly called now the āHarmonica Rising sceneā) is also still there, well it is even a few sec longer now.
Actually if you have seen OUTW for 25 years without this short scene, it is quite a shock to see this scene in the film (of which I had already read that it was put in the shorter versions). It was perfect before, and now it isnāt any more. But at least I can skip it on my player. But I canāt put the 70 missing sec in, and I canāt change the score.
Wonder if there's any chance of these errors ever being corrected. From what I've read, they were originally done a long time ago (maybe for laserdisc release) and never fixed
When Paramount tried to restore the theatrical version in the early 80s they made these 3 mistakes. There is (or was) a very detailed article in a Video Watchdog issue which gives an overview over the several different versions released by Paramount between 1969 (the uncut version released for a short time theatrically) and the slightly faulty Paramount master which they prepared in 1984.
Itās a joke that such a famous film is still not released on home video in itās correct form.
Actually I read recently a statement of a German who watched OUTW in the 80s in Italy. He is sure it was a longer version, but it did not include that Rising scene, but at least some of the parts which are only in the long Italian version.
In regard of that the uncut Italian version is probably 175 min long and not 165 min.
yea this one
http://www.videowatchdog.com/home/HTM/110.htm
the ending explained http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/305895-wrong-music-at-the-end-of-once-upon-a-time-in-the-west/
Interesting stuff. Despite this being my favorite western I havenāt really read much about it. I always just assumed the current releases were already proper uncut versions, because like you say Stanton, its ridiculous for a film of this stature to be treated as such.
[quote=āautephex, post:855, topic:660ā]Yeah, but now I know and its gonna bug me
Actually, I may consider getting the Italian release if it fixes these issues and is equal/better picture quality, and then just add the English track to a burned copy. Iām still new enough to blu ray that I forget these kinds of things can be done with it just like DVDs.[/quote]
It seems at the moment it will be again the long Italian version with a 175 min or 178 min runtime.
But DYS will be released with English audio, and it seems it will not be the fake MGM 5.1 audio with the changed sounds and some wrong music parts, but a 2.0 audio taken from the original English mono audio.
But letās wait until both are released.
DYS sounds like good news.